Standing Out and Finding Your Voice – with Trish Springsteen | RR274
In this episode, we explore the journey of standing out in a crowded marketplace by finding and embracing your unique voice. My guest, Trish Springsteen, shares personal experiences and practical strategies, including two compelling, life-changing moments about overcoming challenges that helped her carve out her distinct identity in her industry. We explore Trish’s journey as an introvert and how she has embraced her uniqueness, from her love for purple and unicorns to launching the Purple Unicorn Academy.
This conversation delves into the importance of authenticity, the power of storytelling, and how to navigate the challenges of staying true to yourself while meeting the demands of your audience.
In this episode you will learn:
- To understand the significance of discovering and cultivating your unique voice in business.
- Practical strategies for standing out in a crowded marketplace.
- The role of storytelling in building a strong, authentic brand.
- insights into balancing authenticity with audience expectations.
- The benefits of staying true to your values while adapting to change.
Connect with Trish: trish@trischel.com.au
Website: www.trishspringsteen.com
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Trish- au.linkedin.com/in/trishspringsteen
Trischel - http://www.linkedin.com/company/trischel
Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/trishspringsteen/
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Transcript
Trish, Hello everyone, and welcome to this
Janice Porter:week's episode of relationships rule. I'm very excited to have
Janice Porter:this my guest today all the way from Australia. Her name is
Janice Porter:Trish, Springsteen, and first of all, welcome to the show. Trish,
Trish Springsteen:thank you. Janice, delighted to be here.
Trish Springsteen:Well, it's
Janice Porter:my pleasure, and we've had a couple of false
Janice Porter:starts on this before we finally actually made it to to record
Janice Porter:today. So I'm thrilled to have you here. Trish is a
Janice Porter:professional speaker and author of many articles and books on
Janice Porter:the importance of effective communication for business, and
Janice Porter:is a recognized expert in the field of speaking and
Janice Porter:communication training. I know from just reading all about her
Janice Porter:that she she is an expert in mentoring introverts, which I
Janice Porter:find interesting, and she is an international best selling
Janice Porter:author. We have shared authorship in a compilation book
Janice Porter:of 262 amazing women, and we're both in it, so I that's how we
Janice Porter:met, which is really cool and helps empower others to have the
Janice Porter:confidence and self belief to make speaking easy. She says,
Janice Porter:Get known, be seen. And she is the get known, be seen
Janice Porter:specialist, and she has this wonderful purple hair, and
Janice Porter:purple is her favorite color. And I think it's because she is
Janice Porter:sending this message that she wants you to be the unicorn in
Janice Porter:your business, as she seems to as she is in hers. So talk to me
Janice Porter:about that first Trish, how did that come about? The purple
Janice Porter:hair, the unicorn? I love it.
Trish Springsteen:Oh, we got 40 years or more. I'll consolidate
Trish Springsteen:it. Well, I've always liked purple.
Janice Porter:You're my granddaughter. You'd be best of
Janice Porter:friends. Yeah,
Trish Springsteen:it's just I can go into a shop or go
Trish Springsteen:somewhere, and I'll reach out, and the first thing I pick up is
Trish Springsteen:something purple, okay? And I've always loved it. However, when I
Trish Springsteen:first left high school, which I say way back in the Jurassic
Trish Springsteen:period, yes, which is a long time ago, people, I was very shy
Trish Springsteen:and an introvert, but very shy. So the concept of standing out
Trish Springsteen:really would have been no not for me. I only had a small group
Trish Springsteen:of friends, and they were, they've been lifelong friends.
Trish Springsteen:I've known them since I left high school, since primary
Trish Springsteen:school, actually, which
Janice Porter:is special. That's really special five of
Trish Springsteen:us who support each other, and we've
Trish Springsteen:just been there. So I did okay in business. I did different
Trish Springsteen:businesses, but mostly from behind the scenes. They're very
Trish Springsteen:good, good businesses. But I never believed in myself, never
Trish Springsteen:thought I had a message, never thought I'd be speaking, never
Trish Springsteen:thought I'd be doing what I'm doing with you now. And why my
Trish Springsteen:love of purple was there. It was my private you know, I'd wear
Trish Springsteen:purple. I didn't have purple hair, okay, the aha moment was
Trish Springsteen:when I came to a point where I started to believe in myself. I
Trish Springsteen:believed in who I was. I knew I had a message. I felt really
Trish Springsteen:comfortable in being who I wanted to be. Now, along with my
Trish Springsteen:love of purple, is my collection of unicorns. Ah, people say to
Trish Springsteen:me, why do I collect unicorns? Why do I love unicorns? I mean,
Trish Springsteen:I love all fantasy creatures, dragons, fairies, but unicorns
Trish Springsteen:have a special place for me. Why? Because they are unique.
Trish Springsteen:They stand out. They're special, they're magical. You don't see
Trish Springsteen:them around very often, unless you really look out the corner
Trish Springsteen:of your eye, you might catch a glimpse of one. So they're very
Trish Springsteen:unique. And when I was starting my business, and I got my
Trish Springsteen:business going, and I started to be a lot more comfortable, this
Trish Springsteen:is why I say completely and honestly, I know how empowering
Trish Springsteen:it is when you believe in yourself, because it gives you a
Trish Springsteen:rock solid foundation. So about that time, I felt so comfortable
Trish Springsteen:that I thought, You know what, I've always wanted to have my
Trish Springsteen:hair purple. I always did. I love purple. I'm comfortable
Trish Springsteen:with myself now. So all those people who have sort of said,
Trish Springsteen:can I tell you? I thought I might like to do it. And I
Trish Springsteen:thought, oh, no, you can't do that. Right? What would people
Trish Springsteen:say, yeah? What would people say, Yeah, you can't do that.
Trish Springsteen:And I thought, when I believed myself, I came to that
Trish Springsteen:conclusion that if I wanted to do my hair purple, that was
Trish Springsteen:absolutely up to me. And I was very comfortable with it didn't
Trish Springsteen:worry me. I thought, This is me. If people don't like it, if
Trish Springsteen:people can't handle it, that's their issue. It's not my issue.
Trish Springsteen:So I went purple, and I have been for a while now. Along with
Trish Springsteen:that, there's a side benefit of having purple hair. Janice, yes.
Trish Springsteen:I'd benefit an especially the secret for introverts, and I'm
Trish Springsteen:telling you, don't have to go and get your hair colored
Trish Springsteen:purple, people, but this is a side benefit of finding your
Trish Springsteen:uniqueness, being the unicorn and standing out. I just came
Trish Springsteen:back from a recent trip, and I can guarantee you, everywhere I
Trish Springsteen:went, people would look at me and they'd smile and they say,
Trish Springsteen:Gee, I love your hair. Oh, I love the coordination. You're
Trish Springsteen:awesome. Do you know what that is? For an introvert, that's a
Trish Springsteen:great opening for conversation, because I don't have to start
Trish Springsteen:the conversation smile. I can say thank you, and if I wanted
Trish Springsteen:the conversation can continue. Or if they're just passing in
Trish Springsteen:the street, which I can guarantee I can go out and at
Trish Springsteen:least three people will say something to me and smile and
Trish Springsteen:I'm smart. They say, smiling. So I'm giving joy to the world. I'm
Trish Springsteen:giving gratitude. I am getting known and being seen in my own
Trish Springsteen:subtle, perceptive way. People say, Wow, you do like purple. I
Trish Springsteen:say, how perceptive of you about it breaks the conversation and
Trish Springsteen:body laughs. So that's sort of how I got to that. And about,
Trish Springsteen:oh, 12 months ago, I was, you know, I've been business since
Trish Springsteen:2006 My business is more from a business partner where we did a
Trish Springsteen:lot of corporate work morphed into mentoring and morphed into,
Trish Springsteen:you know, amicable parting and where I am now. And I launched,
Trish Springsteen:I was doing a business plan course to get brushing up my
Trish Springsteen:skills and writing a business plan and that. And when part of
Trish Springsteen:that was pitching to a group of people, and I thought, here's an
Trish Springsteen:opportunity. I've got a group of organizations, companies,
Trish Springsteen:different sorts of companies, but corporate type. Let me see I
Trish Springsteen:can run my unicorn idea by them and see, because I've been told
Trish Springsteen:along the way speaking bureaus that I was in, oh, we can't get
Trish Springsteen:speaking jobs for you because you're too colorful. Your hair
Trish Springsteen:is purple. You don't wear skirts and dresses when you speak, you
Trish Springsteen:don't wear high heels when you speak, so no one's going to book
Trish Springsteen:you, and noone wants to book you. And I said, Well, those
Trish Springsteen:companies, if they if they're not booking me because of that
Trish Springsteen:reason, then they're the ones I really need to speak to, because
Trish Springsteen:they're not looking outside the square. And I was told to change
Trish Springsteen:and I said, Excuse me. I talk about authenticity. I talk about
Trish Springsteen:being genuine, about owning your uniqueness, and you want me to
Trish Springsteen:change who I am. I said goodbye to those companies. So I along
Trish Springsteen:that line, thought, Okay, I'm going to pitch this to some
Trish Springsteen:companies, just to see if I'm really way out and not
Trish Springsteen:connecting with anybody. So I launched my purple unicorn
Trish Springsteen:Academy, purple unicorn Marketing Academy, um, taking
Trish Springsteen:the marketing out, so I could be a little bit more general now,
Trish Springsteen:but purple unicorn Academy, and I pitched it to them in a two
Trish Springsteen:minute pitch, about like you would to a business and that.
Trish Springsteen:And I loved it. And I said to them at the end, I said, Well,
Trish Springsteen:how did the purple unicorn go? And they said, We love it
Trish Springsteen:because it's unique. And I you know, I said, Do you think other
Trish Springsteen:companies would like that? Yeah, companies that are looking to be
Trish Springsteen:able to be seen, to be able to stand out from other people,
Trish Springsteen:whether it's a small business, a one person business, or a large
Trish Springsteen:organization, they're looking for something really unique.
Trish Springsteen:They're looking for people who will encourage people to stand
Trish Springsteen:out and to be unique, but still talk about the company. So
Trish Springsteen:that's where I was. So there are so many things in there that I
Trish Springsteen:can unpack for your your people who are listening to your
Trish Springsteen:podcast, and that because it's owning who you are, it's having
Trish Springsteen:that courage to stand up. It's being unique and owning
Trish Springsteen:uniqueness and being the unicorn. Because, let's face it,
Trish Springsteen:there's so many speaker coaches out there, which is what I
Trish Springsteen:predominantly started with. There's so many coaches and
Trish Springsteen:mentors and life coaches and accountants and lawyers, and you
Trish Springsteen:name it. There's everybody trying to find their little
Trish Springsteen:page, yeah. And unless you have that courage to say, Here I am,
Trish Springsteen:you're only going to get a small piece of that pie. Well, and
Janice Porter:it speaks to, you know, people saying you're
Janice Porter:supposed to, well, there's different schools of thought,
Janice Porter:but some saying you that you know what came to me when you
Janice Porter:were talking there was a couple of things. One was there's
Janice Porter:enough out there for all of us. And the second is that if you
Janice Porter:are true to who you are and know who you want to serve, they will
Janice Porter:come in the sense that, you know, when you're very clear on
Janice Porter:on, you know, being who you are, being true to who you are, and
Janice Porter:being that unicorn, and the people that that will come to
Janice Porter:you are the right people,
Trish Springsteen:absolutely, yeah, I
Janice Porter:think I love that. I'm I think that. Now do
Janice Porter:you I have to ask you, though, I have to go back to the story
Janice Porter:from the beginning, where I want to know, was there one specific
Janice Porter:aha moment or something that triggered you to say, Hey, I
Janice Porter:like who I am. I am going to, you know, do what I want to do
Janice Porter:and be who I want to be. Was there one particular experience
Janice Porter:or,
Trish Springsteen:um, I would share with probably share of you
Trish Springsteen:two, because there's a there's a pivotal moment my life, which
Trish Springsteen:changed a lot of my thinking. And then a few years after that,
Trish Springsteen:there was another pivotal moment, which I guess cemented
Trish Springsteen:my journey up to that point. Now the pivotal moment, and this is
Trish Springsteen:a trigger warning for people who are listening watching. In 2007
Trish Springsteen:we lost our son, Craig, to suicide. Now that's that's a
Trish Springsteen:big, big life, big life changing moment, absolutely, and it could
Trish Springsteen:have been an ending of my marriage, and coming up in
Trish Springsteen:November, or at the moment, my husband, I've been married for
Trish Springsteen:47 years. So we looked at each other after that, at that
Trish Springsteen:moment, the next day, and we basically said to each other,
Trish Springsteen:this could break or it could cement. And we agreed that we
Trish Springsteen:didn't want to break it was, you know, we were breaking enough in
Trish Springsteen:a whole lot of other areas. We wanted each other, so we agreed
Trish Springsteen:that we would, we would talk about, we would communicate. But
Trish Springsteen:we also agreed that we would live each day, when I say each
Trish Springsteen:day for my son, not so much his life, but each day to celebrate
Trish Springsteen:the world. And I wake up each day saying, how awesome is this
Trish Springsteen:day? Because I know from personal experience, you can
Trish Springsteen:wake up in the morning like we did on that day, and by the time
Trish Springsteen:we went to bed that night, our whole family, our friends, the
Trish Springsteen:ripple effect was enormous. Changed, and I can't undo that
Trish Springsteen:moment, but I can remember him, and I can live my life to the
Trish Springsteen:fullest. And he was one of the pivotal people who introduced me
Trish Springsteen:to my hairdresser who I still have my hair purple, because he
Trish Springsteen:was one of the people who said, Mom, if you want to go do your
Trish Springsteen:hair purple, go see this guy that I go to, and he'll do it
Trish Springsteen:for you. He's really good. So that was a pivotal part where I
Trish Springsteen:thought, you know, I know that time is flitting, so why am I
Trish Springsteen:hiding what I want to do? Why am I letting being afraid of other
Trish Springsteen:people's words stop me from being what I want, because I
Trish Springsteen:know time is fleeting. Now I know that it can change just
Trish Springsteen:like that. We fast forward to about five years ago, six, six
Trish Springsteen:years ago, and I was nominated for a Business Award, and the
Trish Springsteen:nomination was for inspirational Women's Award, and I looked at
Trish Springsteen:the nomination, and my very first thought was, I'm not
Trish Springsteen:inspirational. What is she thinking about? This person who
Trish Springsteen:nominated? What are they thinking about? I'm not
Trish Springsteen:inspirational. For me, inspirational was people had
Trish Springsteen:gone through domestic violence, gone through tragedy, climbed
Trish Springsteen:mountains, lost their money, got it all back again, all of these
Trish Springsteen:for people that were inspirational, all from my
Trish Springsteen:perspective, was I help people and mentor people to be able to
Trish Springsteen:have the confidence to speak, to stand up, to write their books.
Trish Springsteen:That's what I do. That's not inspirational. So I marked that
Trish Springsteen:nomination and I wasn't going to go any further with it until,
Trish Springsteen:oh, and people, this is not what you do. It was about two hours
Trish Springsteen:before the deadline, and I'm sitting there looking at this
Trish Springsteen:nomination. I thought to myself, I had this aha moment. I went
Trish Springsteen:bang across the face of my hand. I thought, You know what Trish,
Trish Springsteen:you teach people, you mentor people, you help people to stand
Trish Springsteen:up and be themselves. You tell them to reach out for
Trish Springsteen:opportunities. What the blazes are you doing? Girl, you're
Trish Springsteen:sitting here negating someone's thoughts. And I thought, How
Trish Springsteen:dare I have the temerity to negate someone who took that
Trish Springsteen:opportunity and obviously thought that I was worthy of
Trish Springsteen:that nomination. How dare I ignore what Yes, absolutely. So
Trish Springsteen:two hours to go, I put my nomination in. Please, people,
Trish Springsteen:if you go for an award, do not leave it to two hours. You do
Trish Springsteen:not want to do that, and it's not where I tell you to do what
Trish Springsteen:I do, but do what I say. Do it a long time before then. So I did,
Trish Springsteen:and then I just ignored it all because I thought I have
Trish Springsteen:acknowledged, yeah, what that person has done for me. And I
Trish Springsteen:thought that was important, because I was being extremely
Trish Springsteen:arrogant to ignore that, so I acknowledge that and and out of
Trish Springsteen:that, I learnt to accept of gratitude, to understand that
Trish Springsteen:what I see is not always what other people see. So I wasn't
Trish Springsteen:even going to go to the awards. Now, I thought I'd done it
Trish Springsteen:because honest to people, I did not believe that I was
Trish Springsteen:inspirational, even though I had put the nomination Interesting,
Trish Springsteen:yeah, and then I had some friends who dragged me along.
Trish Springsteen:You gotta go. You gotta go get a dress. Come along. So I thought
Trish Springsteen:I would. Long story short, I won. I won that inspirational
Trish Springsteen:woman's award, and my friend said the look on my face was
Trish Springsteen:complete and utter shock. I honestly did not think I was
Trish Springsteen:inspirational. I did not think that I would be getting it. So
Trish Springsteen:what that taught me, which cemented that believing in
Trish Springsteen:myself and the power that what everything I've been doing, the
Trish Springsteen:testimonials that I've received, the credibility from another
Trish Springsteen:award, which was about I'd won an award for mentor, a worldwide
Trish Springsteen:award for mentor of the year. All of those came to my aha
Trish Springsteen:moment in that you do not see others. You know we do not see
Trish Springsteen:ourselves as others. See us absolutely yeah. And if people
Trish Springsteen:say, Thank you, if people say, Wow, you changed my life, if
Trish Springsteen:people say, you inspired me, or something that you said has
Trish Springsteen:helped me to stand up and share what I believe in, the automatic
Trish Springsteen:reaction that we as women have where we say, Oh, that was
Trish Springsteen:nothing. Well, it is where I stop now and I say, Thank you. A
Trish Springsteen:simple thank you. I have learned to accept gratitude and
Trish Springsteen:understand that the impact I have I don't always see.
Janice Porter:You know, that's huge, because I always remember
Janice Porter:my mother, God, rest her soul. She was always if somebody, she
Janice Porter:was always sending thank you notes or doing little good
Janice Porter:things for lots of people. But if somebody gave her something,
Janice Porter:whether it was a thank you note or took her out or did whatever
Janice Porter:she she would always have to, like, do the thank you back like
Janice Porter:she didn't know how to say thank you. Just say thank you and
Janice Porter:accept it. She had to do it for them as well. And and I remember
Janice Porter:later in her life saying my sister and I, you know, saying
Janice Porter:Mom, just say thank you. Just say thank you. It's okay, you
Janice Porter:know, you just let it sink in. You don't have to do, you know,
Janice Porter:and, and it comes from, probably, upbringing. It comes
Janice Porter:from, you know, not in her case, you know, getting getting
Janice Porter:married at 19, and never finishing school, and all of
Janice Porter:that stuff where she was, you know, in that, yeah, and then
Janice Porter:talking in the head. But anyway, it's just really interesting. So
Janice Porter:you talk about, I know one of the things you talk about is
Janice Porter:mastering the art of conversation, and that interests
Janice Porter:me, because, again, from your interest, introvert perspective,
Janice Porter:because with the work that I do, and the work I'm referring to is
Janice Porter:the work I do on teaching people how to leverage LinkedIn to
Janice Porter:generate leads and to grow their businesses. Well, in order to be
Janice Porter:able to do that, you have to be able to have a conversation with
Janice Porter:people. And I'm often really taken aback by how many people
Janice Porter:when I'm teaching this kind of method that I do around it,
Janice Porter:they'll go, Well, what should I say in the message, like, like,
Janice Porter:they have no idea. And to me, that's just comes naturally
Janice Porter:because I'm curious and because I I'm maybe because I'm
Janice Porter:outgoing, I don't know, but what's your take on that? And
Janice Porter:what do you advise people to to master that art of conversation
Trish Springsteen:as an introvert, making that first
Trish Springsteen:step to have a conversation is a very hard thing for many of us
Janice Porter:mentioned that. So yes, I hear that. Yes, it is
Trish Springsteen:very hard. It's an introvert can be I mean,
Trish Springsteen:they're labels, and I really don't like labels, but we deal
Trish Springsteen:with what we have to do. An introvert doesn't isn't always
Trish Springsteen:shy, right? Introvert means shy. They're two different things. I
Trish Springsteen:was a shy introvert. I'm not so much shy now, but I'm still an
Trish Springsteen:introvert, and an introvert, from my perspective, is just on
Trish Springsteen:an energy basis, right? We prefer to be by ourselves to get
Trish Springsteen:energy, large crowds, large lots of people. Having to step
Trish Springsteen:outside of our little shell is takes a lot of energy. Yeah, and
Trish Springsteen:it works. I don't want to get that energy so they're quite
Trish Springsteen:comfortable staying where they are, which is fine. Uh, except
Trish Springsteen:if you've got a business, if you've got a message, if you
Trish Springsteen:want to get along in life, and basically any of those. So I'm
Trish Springsteen:sorry you're introverts. You really can't stay there. You've
Trish Springsteen:got to get that courage up to step outside that comfort zone.
Trish Springsteen:And it just means knowing that I can step outside my comfort
Trish Springsteen:zone, I can start a conversation, I can go to a
Trish Springsteen:meeting, but if I get overwhelmed, I can easily step
Trish Springsteen:back and take some minutes outside, get my energy back and
Trish Springsteen:continue, which is why I talk about being an introvert
Trish Springsteen:speaker, and how I've got to where I am now and why I can do
Trish Springsteen:these things. Yes, people, I do have problems starting a
Trish Springsteen:conversation even now, and I'm talking, you know, 14 years, 15
Trish Springsteen:years, after a lot of things that I've done, I can sit
Trish Springsteen:outside a new I had to go to a new network meeting not too long
Trish Springsteen:ago. Never, didn't know person there, really, other than
Trish Springsteen:someone I spoke to online. And I sat in the car for about five
Trish Springsteen:minutes thinking, I think I feel well, I could go home. I could
Trish Springsteen:think of all the excuses on the world not to walk through that
Trish Springsteen:door, except for one, and that one is important, because I know
Trish Springsteen:that I talk about giving your brand a voice. I know that it's
Trish Springsteen:so easy to stand behind your labels, your in your logos, your
Trish Springsteen:the website, all of that, and it's you that people want to
Trish Springsteen:know. So I took a deep breath and I walked in now,
Trish Springsteen:conversations. Well, my purple hair helps me a lot with that,
Trish Springsteen:and I'm not telling you to go and get your hair purple, but
Trish Springsteen:what I'm saying is that questions are great. I use
Trish Springsteen:questions. I start with a question, and the easiest one
Trish Springsteen:is, oh, what do you do? I mean that that's an easy one, except
Trish Springsteen:a lot of people don't know how to answer that, and it can close
Trish Springsteen:the conversation down because three words and you've got no
Trish Springsteen:idea where to go with that then I know. I mean, I've started
Trish Springsteen:with that question and thought, freaking Hell, where am I going
Trish Springsteen:now? Because I didn't actually tell me anything, and there were
Trish Springsteen:probably introverts who didn't know how to answer. So it's,
Trish Springsteen:it's being like, let me just go back to LinkedIn, starting a
Trish Springsteen:conversation on LinkedIn. One of the things I sort of say is, how
Trish Springsteen:can I assist you? Thank you for reaching out. Thank you for
Trish Springsteen:connecting. How can I assist you up to a conversation?
Janice Porter:So let's stop there for a second. Because
Janice Porter:whether so for me, if I'm teaching someone how to start
Janice Porter:that conversation on LinkedIn, I think that's easier than
Janice Porter:starting the conversation in person at the networking event
Janice Porter:where you don't know anybody because you've got all of their
Janice Porter:stuff in front of you. Yeah, right. So if you do your
Janice Porter:homework and you look for a point of commonality, whether
Janice Porter:it's the weather, where they live, whether it's a school they
Janice Porter:went to, it doesn't matter. It's just something that can start
Janice Porter:the rapport building. To me, that seems logical, but
Janice Porter:probably, when you're an introvert, there's so many
Janice Porter:anxiety things that come into play that you might not make
Janice Porter:it's not so easy, I suppose. Well, part
Trish Springsteen:of the introvert, it's not so much the
Trish Springsteen:anxiety, that's the confidence level confidence is which kicks
Trish Springsteen:off the anxiety to for certain extent, an introvert is quite
Trish Springsteen:comfortable where they are, so getting the confidence to step
Trish Springsteen:outside of where they are is what the next step is, and
Trish Springsteen:that's about Understanding that you have to stand up in your
Trish Springsteen:business. If you're on LinkedIn, we'll deal with LinkedIn. If
Trish Springsteen:you're on LinkedIn, you're there because it's business to
Trish Springsteen:business. Yep, you're there because you've got a business,
Trish Springsteen:you've got a book, you've got a message, you've got something
Trish Springsteen:that you want to connect with people, right? Otherwise, why
Trish Springsteen:are you there? You
Janice Porter:want business. That's, yeah, you want business.
Janice Porter:That's really the bottom line, right? But you don't always know
Janice Porter:how to go about it the right way. That's all
Trish Springsteen:and and I can relate with them. I know that I
Trish Springsteen:had to teach myself. I thought, you know, just put everything up
Trish Springsteen:so it'll come to me.
Janice Porter:Yeah, no. So going into that face to face
Janice Porter:networking event, let's just talk about that again in the
Janice Porter:sense that, okay, you don't know what you're going to say to
Janice Porter:people and and if you have to start the conversation, and I
Janice Porter:love that you said that you think of a question. But the
Janice Porter:question that I like to ask, if that's what I'm going to start
Janice Porter:with, if I'm going to start the conversation, there is, you
Janice Porter:know, what brought you here? You know, because then that's a
Janice Porter:little less challenging for them. And did you know anybody
Janice Porter:here? You know, like I came, I don't know anybody, but I'm so
Janice Porter:glad to meet you. But you know, so on, and then ease into you
Janice Porter:know, so you know, what do you do when you're not. Kind of
Janice Porter:thing. But I always find it really interesting though, that
Janice Porter:the the nervous people are the people that don't stop talking
Janice Porter:when you answer the when you ask them the question, right?
Janice Porter:Because really, that's not the place for the whole nine yards.
Janice Porter:It's only for the, you know, the little bit. So it's
Trish Springsteen:so relieved that someone asks them something
Trish Springsteen:that they'll just dump your whole their whole life story.
Trish Springsteen:And I love that. I just think that's great because, actually,
Trish Springsteen:they're extroverts, because extroverts will share
Trish Springsteen:everything. They're extroverts who are very nervous extroverts,
Trish Springsteen:because just because you're an extrovert doesn't mean to say
Trish Springsteen:you're full of confidence. No, that's true. You're an introvert
Trish Springsteen:doesn't mean to say you don't have any competence, right? No,
Trish Springsteen:for sure, it's just your preference as to where you want
Trish Springsteen:to be and how you want to act.
Janice Porter:It's your energy, what? Right? Okay, it's just
Janice Porter:your energy. And
Trish Springsteen:when you an introvert, your energy comes
Trish Springsteen:from not being around people. You comes from being quiet and
Trish Springsteen:silent and doing all the things that you like to do so you work
Trish Springsteen:on on, knowing that you know where your levels are, and you
Trish Springsteen:know that if you do start to get overwhelmed, you can just step
Trish Springsteen:back a bit, right, and just take that deep breath. Um, extroverts
Trish Springsteen:just overwhelm people because they're so excited to be where
Trish Springsteen:they are, and their energy comes from all the people around them
Trish Springsteen:that they can be so overwhelming that their problem is they don't
Trish Springsteen:listen, they don't actually make a connection, because they're so
Trish Springsteen:busy giving everybody. Let's
Janice Porter:not generalize. Let's not generalize.
Trish Springsteen:I'm not saying what you're saying. Yes,
Trish Springsteen:that's that's a trap that a lot of extroverts end up in because
Trish Springsteen:they need to harness that and focus and learn to listen to
Trish Springsteen:people as well. It's a two way. Conversation is a two way,
Janice Porter:exactly. So you talk about being a mentor and
Janice Porter:being a coach as well as being a speaker and an author. Okay, you
Janice Porter:do all of these things, amazing. Um, do you is the mentoring like
Janice Porter:a labor of love, or is or like, how do you see that in terms of
Janice Porter:coaching versus mentoring, versus, say, training? Because
Janice Porter:people use them in different ways, and I know how I think of
Janice Porter:it.
Trish Springsteen:So it's a conversation that you can sit
Trish Springsteen:and talk with someone for hours about what the definition of a
Trish Springsteen:coach is, what the definition of a mentor is, what the definition
Trish Springsteen:of a trainer is, and really it's none of this. You've got those
Trish Springsteen:dictionary definitions which really don't apply, because
Trish Springsteen:we're all individuals. We're all unique, and we bring our own
Trish Springsteen:different life experiences to each of those little segments.
Trish Springsteen:So while there's an overall concept that a coach is about
Trish Springsteen:teaching people and and giving them all the things to be able
Trish Springsteen:to change, and a mentor is about supporting and helping them to
Trish Springsteen:take that and include it and go on, which is sort of my sort of
Trish Springsteen:definition. And a trainer is someone who sits there and wants
Trish Springsteen:to change palm Hall's attitude, but in a workshop, more
Trish Springsteen:environment, which is Okay, interesting. My my sort of
Trish Springsteen:definitions, I always, from my perspective, think I'm a blend
Trish Springsteen:of a mentor and a coach, okay, because I might start coaching
Trish Springsteen:someone my public speaking skills, yeah, just giving them
Trish Springsteen:change, giving them information, giving them techniques and
Trish Springsteen:strategies to be able to and then what often more does is
Trish Springsteen:that more into mentoring. And mentoring is my passion. It's,
Trish Springsteen:it's, I guess you could say it's my love, because, from my
Trish Springsteen:perspective, a mentor, a mentor pushes you outside your comfort
Trish Springsteen:zone. A mentor challenges you, asks the difficult questions,
Trish Springsteen:holds a mirror up for you to see yourself, and then is there to
Trish Springsteen:catch you if you fall, and provide a support to say that's
Trish Springsteen:okay, try something different and push you up to fly again.
Trish Springsteen:That's my personal concept of a mentor. So when I'm coaching,
Trish Springsteen:I'm giving strategies, I'm giving techniques on a
Trish Springsteen:particular skill way. And then when I'm mentoring, I'm looking
Trish Springsteen:at the whole person and how their business goes, how they
Trish Springsteen:react, their mindset, their thoughts, their their courage,
Trish Springsteen:their belief in themselves, how they see whether they're unique,
Trish Springsteen:and I'm providing that support. I don't always give answers when
Trish Springsteen:I'm mentoring, right? I ask questions. Okay? I push the
Trish Springsteen:questions for them to look deep to find where they're going, and
Trish Springsteen:I listen when I'm training in a workshop, I'm in front of people
Trish Springsteen:online or offline. And I'm again giving skills training, but I've
Trish Springsteen:only got a short time with them, so I'm training to change their
Trish Springsteen:something, from their what they're doing now, to there, and
Trish Springsteen:making sure that within that short time I have they've got
Trish Springsteen:something that's changed their thought processes or change
Trish Springsteen:their skills. It's a short time. And I guess, from my
Trish Springsteen:perspective, that's my precious definitions of coach, mentor and
Trish Springsteen:training. Okay,
Janice Porter:okay, that's awesome. So what are you working
Janice Porter:on right now? I think you've got a program coming up that sounds
Janice Porter:interesting. You told me a little bit before we went on
Janice Porter:air.
Trish Springsteen:Yes, what I'm working on now, because my two
Trish Springsteen:favor my favorite sayings. I'll just share those, because it
Trish Springsteen:came out of this. It's my favorite sayings. I believe in
Trish Springsteen:you until you believe in yourself. Because I think people
Trish Springsteen:and that comes, I guess, from mentoring and that they need
Trish Springsteen:someone there to believe in them until they can take that belief
Trish Springsteen:and have it internal. I also believe my other saying is, get
Trish Springsteen:known, be seen, which comes with being the unicorn in your
Trish Springsteen:business. You you. It's no good having your book. It's no good
Trish Springsteen:having a service, a message, a business that's the best damn
Trish Springsteen:thing, or a product. If people can't find you, right? If people
Trish Springsteen:don't know that's who you are. So I'm help people to get known
Trish Springsteen:and be seen. And along with that, is repurpose and leverage,
Trish Springsteen:and my 60 seconds of insane courage, all of those together,
Trish Springsteen:is about getting outside yourself and being known and
Trish Springsteen:being seen. Now when I talk about getting and be seen, it
Trish Springsteen:could be writing a book. It could be writing a chapter in a
Trish Springsteen:book. It could be blogging. It could be doing videos. There's a
Trish Springsteen:whole range of things that you can do to be an RBC, but from my
Trish Springsteen:perspective and my journey, I believe wholeheartedly that
Trish Springsteen:underpinning every one of those things are good speaking and
Trish Springsteen:communication skills, if you can speak, and if you can do
Trish Springsteen:communication and communicate well, you've got a solid
Trish Springsteen:foundation to build all the rest on. And speaking is one
Trish Springsteen:absolutely fantastic way of being known being seen, because
Trish Springsteen:it's one that you should be addressing and enhancing your
Trish Springsteen:skills in from the time that you decide that you want to Well, my
Trish Springsteen:view is, from the time that you leave high school, even before
Trish Springsteen:high school, before that in school, you should be learning
Trish Springsteen:speaking skills. Because no matter what you do, whether you
Trish Springsteen:go to a business, whether you are going to work in an
Trish Springsteen:organization, you need to be spoke, be able to speak, to
Trish Springsteen:share who you are, to sell yourself, interview. That's what
Trish Springsteen:you're doing. Right in a business, you need to showcase
Trish Springsteen:so part of that in a business is what we call putting together a
Trish Springsteen:keynote speech. Now it's probably a word that's got
Trish Springsteen:different meanings different people. If you're going to be
Trish Springsteen:speaking in a big conference, a keynote is usually the one that
Trish Springsteen:opens or closes, right? I think it's a big motivational type
Trish Springsteen:speech in in the perspective of your business. My sort of thing
Trish Springsteen:saying a keynote is your your fallback speech that you can
Trish Springsteen:pull out and say, This is what I do, or this is how I inspire
Trish Springsteen:people, or sharing something that is about you and about your
Trish Springsteen:business that you can pull out and share whether you're going
Trish Springsteen:to be speaking anywhere. You can say, that's my, well, I guess my
Trish Springsteen:keynote, that's my, my my showcase speech, that's that's
Trish Springsteen:what I fall back on if I need to do anything. So what I wanted to
Trish Springsteen:do was to bring all of those together. So I've got a I
Trish Springsteen:launched a speaker package this year. It's called a speaker
Trish Springsteen:package, and what it does I spend three sessions with you
Trish Springsteen:online, helping you to craft that signature speech, that
Trish Springsteen:keynote speech, your signature speech, helping you to craft
Trish Springsteen:that then what part of the package is that, then we turn
Trish Springsteen:that signature speech into a chapter into my next volume of
Trish Springsteen:get none be seen compilation. Nice. So now you've hit two
Trish Springsteen:parts. You've now got a signature speech that you can
Trish Springsteen:comfortably get up and share whatever time you want. You can
Trish Springsteen:expand or contract that, right? You now become an author, which
Trish Springsteen:means you're now being seen in a different medium. Yeah, I also
Trish Springsteen:then offer you a interview in my magazine. See now you're being
Trish Springsteen:seen again in a different medium, and an interview on my
Trish Springsteen:get none be seen web TV. You've now got about four different
Trish Springsteen:ways of being known, being seen. Then that's that basic package.
Trish Springsteen:If you want to pay an upgrade, a little bit extra in the end of
Trish Springsteen:this year for those who are in around my area, or for because
Trish Springsteen:it's global, it's online or offline, there's two options for
Trish Springsteen:those online, who are watching, who'd like to join. I will hold
Trish Springsteen:a summit at the end of the year where you get to present your
Trish Springsteen:signature keynote speech. It will be video. It. You now
Trish Springsteen:presenting it, and we'll put it out there to you know, you can
Trish Springsteen:invite the people along to that summit. You've got other people
Trish Springsteen:who on that summit. You've now got another way that you've been
Trish Springsteen:seen. And the video of that speech, you get to use whatever
Trish Springsteen:for those who are local, we are holding it in on in a room, on
Trish Springsteen:stage, and I've got a videographer doing that. So
Trish Springsteen:that's my speaker package, which I put together because it, I
Trish Springsteen:guess, brings together my all my favorite 60 seconds of insane
Trish Springsteen:courage to step outside what you're doing. I'm believing in
Trish Springsteen:you so that you can do it and get no BC, so that you get out
Trish Springsteen:there and repurposing and leveraging, showing you how you
Trish Springsteen:can repurpose and leverage one piece of thing into another,
Trish Springsteen:your signature speech into a chapter in a book, and you're
Trish Springsteen:now getting out there being seen.
Janice Porter:Love it. And I can tell you love what you do,
Janice Porter:so I'm sure that it will get filled and be a big success. So
Janice Porter:I love it. That's great. Okay, before we wrap up, I want to ask
Janice Porter:you one last question that I like to sometimes ask my guests,
Janice Porter:and this is about my favorite word, curiosity. So I would like
Janice Porter:to know your thoughts on whether you think curiosity is innate or
Janice Porter:learned, and what you are most curious about these days. Love
Janice Porter:that
Trish Springsteen:you can take it both ways. I'm I'm one of
Trish Springsteen:those Devil's advocates, but I think for most people, Curiosity
Trish Springsteen:is innate, okay, however, I also think it's learned, because you
Trish Springsteen:may have that impulse to be curious about something, but
Trish Springsteen:unless you have the courage the self belief, it may not go
Trish Springsteen:anywhere. So I think while we have the seeds of curiosity
Trish Springsteen:inside us. Sometimes we have to have the external influence to
Trish Springsteen:help us learn. It's okay to be curious. It's okay to take step
Trish Springsteen:outside and take that curiosity and find out where it will take
Trish Springsteen:you. And unfortunately, from my perspective, too many people let
Trish Springsteen:that curiosity see die inside them, because they haven't got
Trish Springsteen:that courage to go and see okay, I'd like to know more about
Trish Springsteen:that. Let's go and find out. So I think it's a combination of
Trish Springsteen:both, Okay,
Janice Porter:fair enough. And what are you most curious about
Janice Porter:these days?
Trish Springsteen:What am I most curious about I'm I'm
Trish Springsteen:curious about living. I'm curious about the opportunities
Trish Springsteen:that come that I can reach out and be be more part of life. I'm
Trish Springsteen:curious to see whether I can actually finish this book I've
Trish Springsteen:been writing for the last four years. Okay, and I've managed to
Trish Springsteen:go over roadblock of that. I'm curious about the people that
Trish Springsteen:I'm going to meet, and where will that take me. I'm curious
Trish Springsteen:about, Shall I book this trip to China next year or not? Who have
Trish Springsteen:my bucket list on that Eclipse, the Terracotta Warriors and the
Trish Springsteen:Great Portland casting, fantastic. So I'm just curious
Trish Springsteen:to see where my life will take me. I have so much more living
Trish Springsteen:to do.
Trish Springsteen:It's,
Trish Springsteen:it's just curiosity about what's what's out there, what's the
Trish Springsteen:world love? What's
Janice Porter:next for you? Well, that's great. Thank you.
Janice Porter:Thank you so much for that. And one last, one last little thing,
Janice Porter:your favorite or best piece of advice for my audience,
Trish Springsteen:I guess my best piece of advice is my 60
Trish Springsteen:seconds of insane coverage. It's 20 seconds to acknowledge that
Trish Springsteen:there's a negative voice saying, I can't do this. Don't be
Trish Springsteen:curious. I can't step up 20 seconds to say, Stop. I can do
Trish Springsteen:this. Bring the positives back in. I can be curious, and I can
Trish Springsteen:accept and I can explore. I can speak, I can go out, and then 20
Trish Springsteen:seconds to smile and just smile and say yes to any opportunity
Trish Springsteen:that comes, and live your life to the fullest. Fantastic.
Janice Porter:I love it. And of course, it made me smile. I love
Janice Porter:that. Thank you. Thank you for that and for for your wisdom. I
Janice Porter:will put in the show notes how people can get hold of you. I'm
Janice Porter:assuming it's your website. Yes. Trish springsteen.com, yep.
Janice Porter:Okay, and anything else you might want me to put on there
Janice Porter:and to my. Audience, as usual, thank you for being here. I
Janice Porter:appreciate you, and remember to stay connected and be
Janice Porter:remembered. Bye, bye.