Redefining Success Through Reflection and Relationships | RR289

Janice Porter: 00:00:00

Todd. Hi everyone. Welcome to

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relationships rule. Joining me this week is Todd Burch, and

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Todd is coming to us from now, I've forgotten Ohio,

Todd Bertsch: 00:00:13

yeah, Akron, Ohio, lebronstown, there you go.

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And I'm hoping we're going to have an amazing

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conversation about people, about relationships, because we both

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care a lot about that. But I want to start first, actually,

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you know where I want to start in a completely off the cuff

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place. You love Jeopardy and a fortune, because those are my

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things. And I want to start there, just completely off the

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cuff, if you don't mind. No, I love it. Okay, so did I tell you

Janice Porter: 00:00:45

I was on Wheel of Fortune?

Todd Bertsch: 00:00:47

Oh, my gosh. No, you did not. Oh, I did. I

Janice Porter: 00:00:50

Yes, I was on it way back in the day, a long,

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long time ago, but it was a great experience. And I remember

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studying, you know, all the watching day after day after

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day. And then I always wanted to be on Jeopardy, but I never

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thought I was smart enough. And same. Here do you so now? Do you

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still watch it every day?

Todd Bertsch: 00:01:10

Oh, yeah. So, yeah. So obviously, yeah, you

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read that my bio. So talking about relationships, yeah. So

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I'm married. For my wife and I, we have a thing, and this has

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been our thing since we've been married. So every day, nothing

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happens between seven and eight o'clock, aside from sitting down

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together and watching Wheel in jeopardy. My daughter knows the

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dog doesn't, you know, get taken out at that time. Like it,

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there's, it's just a thing, and we, we both love it. And the

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funny thing is, like, I literally suck at wheel. It's so

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good, and we've tried to get her on the show. And there was a

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when the traveling van comes around to the bus, it was in our

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area, or near Cleveland, and she was going to try out, but she

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didn't. But she is so good, she'll, she'll get the questions

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before anybody else, like, literally, she just needs a

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couple letters. I just, my mind doesn't work like that. So I've,

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I've kind of came to the conclusion I'm okay with it.

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It's just not my thing. And then Jeopardy, I can compete a little

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bit more with her. But, you know, for us, it's, it's it's

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cool, because we've committed to at least one hour. You know how

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quick the day goes by, for sure, especially during the week. We

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both work. We have a young daughter, so we said, you know,

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this is our time, and everybody knows it. And no calls that, you

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know? We just put the phones down and we watch and enjoy it

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together and laugh and compete and, you know, it's all good. So

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that's funny that you picked that one. Oh no, no,

Janice Porter: 00:02:43

that's special. It's our

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thing. And, like, it makes me seem old. But and

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all the commercials are definitely not geared towards,

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well,

Janice Porter: 00:02:52

I don't even watch them. We record Joe, okay,

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yeah, we watch it sort of a little bit later in the evening,

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but we do watch it every night and wheel, I don't watch as much

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anymore, but tell your wife that it's very different. When you're

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on air. It's very different. You know, you can be the best

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armchair quarterback in the world, right? And it's the same

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with Wheel of Fortune. And I didn't win my fortune. I just to

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give you the synopsis for your wife. I won the first puzzle.

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There were only three puzzles and the bonus round when I was

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on, that's how long ago it was. So I won the first puzzle. I

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lost my turn on the second puzzle, even though I knew the

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answer. And the third puzzle was very long, and it was a phrase,

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and I got most of it going. And I got a lot of the letters and

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whatever. And there was one word that was stumping as it was a

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three or four letter word with an apostrophe in it, yeah, four

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letters with an apostrophe in it. And it was killing me. And

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we went to commercial in the middle, and I had, we had to

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turn around and and not look at it. And I came back around and I

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said a letter before, I was thinking, okay, and I lost my

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turn, and the puzzle was and my mother was sitting in the

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audience, and she knew it, and she was killing her, because

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it's an old Jewish expression, and it was in the movie Fiddler

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on the Roof, and it's called, it was from your mouth to God's

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ears, which I'll never forget. Okay, right? Yeah, of course

Janice Porter: 00:04:26

not, yeah. So I didn't win my fortune, but I won a bunch of

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stuff and everything, and cool

Todd Bertsch: 00:04:31

experience. But it was a great story, right?

Janice Porter: 00:04:33

Yeah, it was great. And the thing about

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Jeopardy, I get so that when I when I really get into it I sit

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now. For the last two weeks, I've been tallying the questions

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I get right, and then there's usually two or three that I

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can't get out fast enough because my brain isn't going to

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right my mouth. So I give myself a little grace. But the other

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day, the the i. Uh, Ken Jennings said something about the the new

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champion got 25 questions, right the night before, and I thought,

Janice Porter: 00:05:08

Wow. Well, I get up to 23 I think I'm not good enough, but

Janice Porter: 00:05:12

that's not bad when I think about it. So, yeah, so I'm more.

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I'm aiming for 25 but I'm

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not doing better than we are so

Janice Porter: 00:05:21

but it's, it's, it's kind of fun anyway, but

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that also makes me transition into a fun thing that you know

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that I'm a LinkedIn trainer, and you know that we're talking,

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we're going to talk about the power of relationships and

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whatever, and something that I don't know if you do this on

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LinkedIn or not, but I'm all about getting into the mailbox

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and meeting new people and starting conversations. And I've

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decided I haven't done this yet, but I have used my wheel of

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fortune thing in a in an icebreaker kind of question to

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people, and I've got it set out a certain way, but I was

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thinking a new one could be, if you were on Jeopardy, what would

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you use as your story to share with the audience? I love that.

Janice Porter: 00:06:07

That's good,

Todd Bertsch: 00:06:08

right? I might feel that, can I steal

Janice Porter: 00:06:10

it absolutely? Because I think it's good, and

Janice Porter: 00:06:13

it is a good

Todd Bertsch: 00:06:14

icebreaker, right? Well, now it's on the show. It's

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gonna, you know, once the this episode airs, then everyone will

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be doing,

Janice Porter: 00:06:21

yeah, you know what? It doesn't matter because

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there's no competition. It's there for everybody. And yeah,

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and although there is competition, I do like a good

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competition, which is why I tallying. I

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was gonna, yep, that's exactly what I was

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thinking, yeah. But it's

Janice Porter: 00:06:38

not, it's not really, in that vein, I share

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those things that I think you know people will be able to use.

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So tell me about I don't need to go into your whole long story,

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because I think that everyone you've got it on your website,

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and it's a great story the way you've laid it out, but Oh,

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thank you. You are into you have a holistic approach to personal

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growth and sharing your insight through coaching. You're a life

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coach. Correct your speaker, and you have a podcast also called

Janice Porter: 00:07:10

the bolt. The bolt, yes, talk to me about your work. Talk to me

Janice Porter: 00:07:16

about what lights you up right now.

Todd Bertsch: 00:07:18

Oh, what lights me up? The Vault. Oh, yeah, yeah,

Todd Bertsch: 00:07:23

no, really, it's, it's, it's funny. Jess, I've been on this

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holistic journey, this transformational journey, for a

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long time, specifically the past four years. So COVID was a, you

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know, a big, a big time for me to reflect. And during that

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time, I met my life coach, or she's called a high performance

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coach, and ironically, you'll love this through LinkedIn, ah,

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so she Yes,

Janice Porter: 00:07:52

she said that I started to listen to that

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podcast episode, yes, yeah. She's

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amazing. That's a great episode. It just dropped

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today. But she Yeah, so she noticed something interesting

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about me on LinkedIn, and we're in the same same area, and,

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yeah, we just connected, and right away there was a synergy

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there. And I hired her as my life coach. She took me through

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this program called Positive Intelligence, which changed my

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life. And she's still my coach, and now we are like the best of

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friends, and I've even coached her in some in some moments. So

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it's, it's a great testament, I think, to circling back to

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LinkedIn, how powerful social media and specifically LinkedIn

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as a professional tool, what started off as a professional

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relationship turned into, she is now part of my tribe. Yes, I

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think we'll talk a little bit about how important a tribe is.

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But she just ended up we're just we share the same core values.

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We share an intimate passion for growth, personal growth,

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holistic approach, mind, body, soul. That's what gets me juiced

Todd Bertsch: 00:09:02

every day to get up relationships, honestly, that's

Todd Bertsch: 00:09:06

that's what I love, and that's what was the biggest challenge

Todd Bertsch: 00:09:09

for me during COVID, was being a people person. Oh, yeah, you

Todd Bertsch: 00:09:12

know. And I had my wife and daughter, and we got a dog,

Todd Bertsch: 00:09:16

which helped, yeah, we had a COVID dog, and bought a camper,

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and we had a neighbor, and we traveled around Ohio camping,

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which was really cool, and it was better than just sitting at

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the house, but, you know, not having that connection and and

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being in person, you know, tried some zoom stuff and whatever,

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play a card game. And, you know, happy hour over zoom. It's just

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not the same, let's be honest, better than nothing, but not the

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same. So anyhow, so yeah, lots of reflection. And yeah, so

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that's when I kind of started my journey. And you know, it

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November of last year. I had been feeling like there was a

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something missing in my life. There was there was a gap, and I

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have a i. A marketing agency called evolve marketing, and

Todd Bertsch: 00:10:02

I've been doing that for 15 years, and I got a, you know, a

Todd Bertsch: 00:10:05

small team, and, you know, we're doing well, but I just felt like

Todd Bertsch: 00:10:10

I've been called for something, something else, you know, I

Todd Bertsch: 00:10:14

don't say a higher purpose, but a different purpose. And I think

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it, it's really important for people to be able to have that

Todd Bertsch: 00:10:22

self reflection and to be courageous enough to go after

Todd Bertsch: 00:10:26

it. And I'm, you know, I'm really blessed and fortunate to

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be able to be in a position where I can go and try something

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new. And, you know, I have a, I feel like a fairly interesting

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story, and I'm doing the work, I've done the work, I'm still

Todd Bertsch: 00:10:42

doing the work. And I saw how powerful that was for me. And I

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had one, one of my employees, go through it with me as well. And

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I'm like, I just want to, I want to share this. I want to get

Todd Bertsch: 00:10:53

this out. I want to amplify this message. I, you know, it took me

Todd Bertsch: 00:10:56

a long time to find like, true happiness, and I've had bits and

Todd Bertsch: 00:11:01

pieces, you know, throughout the years. I'm 53 years 53 years old

Todd Bertsch: 00:11:05

right now, and it took me about 50 years to really just find

Todd Bertsch: 00:11:10

that peace and joy. And a lot of it was going through that self

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reflection and going through Positive Intelligence, which is

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primarily about turning a negative, shifting from a

Todd Bertsch: 00:11:21

negative to a positive, and just having seeing the the gift and

Todd Bertsch: 00:11:24

opportunity and everything in life, okay, so, and just

Todd Bertsch: 00:11:28

shifting that, that mindsets, you know, was huge,

Janice Porter: 00:11:31

okay. So I want to go back then for a bit,

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because you had you. You call it your dark path, where you got

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into drugs and whatever when you're used. Now, some kids

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would have stayed on that path and gone that to destruction.

Janice Porter: 00:11:45

You didn't. Now, you obviously had something in you way back

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then that allowed you to come to the light and to fight for who

Janice Porter: 00:11:56

you are. So I don't think it just happened here. I think it's

Janice Porter: 00:12:00

it's in you, and it was in you right from then, right from the

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beginning, to see that you were better than what you were doing.

Janice Porter: 00:12:07

Or was it a person, or was it a, you know, a mentor, or somebody

Janice Porter: 00:12:12

that brought you out? Or was it you getting over it, getting

Janice Porter: 00:12:16

stronger as you got older, you more mature and whatever. If you

Janice Porter: 00:12:19

don't mind me asking, because, no,

Todd Bertsch: 00:12:20

no, I've been talking about a lot. No, it's an

Todd Bertsch: 00:12:23

open book. It's all out there. That's part of the journey,

Todd Bertsch: 00:12:25

right? Everybody's got a story to tell. Everybody's been

Todd Bertsch: 00:12:28

through some adversity, obviously, some some more

Todd Bertsch: 00:12:30

traumatic than others. There was a moment when I was about 21

Todd Bertsch: 00:12:35

years old where I was doing some things, you know, that's, you

Todd Bertsch: 00:12:38

know, not proud of and I got beat up pretty bad by a few

Todd Bertsch: 00:12:43

guys, real, real bad. And it was a it was a pivotal moment in my

Todd Bertsch: 00:12:49

life. And so you asked a good question to ask, what was it?

Todd Bertsch: 00:12:52

Who it wasn't anyone, specifically, it was myself, and

Todd Bertsch: 00:12:57

it was that moment. But it took something traumatic like that,

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and I said, Look, I can't do this anymore. You know, I'm I

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:05

don't say I'm better than it, but I knew that I wanted to be

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:09

more, that I could do more. But I was in such a fog for so long

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:14

that I just wasn't really living in reality. And things were, you

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:19

know, I had a steady job. I was a janitor at a hospital, you

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:22

know, if I was doing my thing and having fun, partying all day

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:25

and night. But, you know, there really wasn't a path there to to

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:30

doing much else, or giving back to the community or being an

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:33

integral part of the community. So, so, yeah, it was that

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:36

moment. And then as I got into my career and into college,

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:40

there were definitely people, you know, who were in my life

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:44

that gave me the confidence, that gave me the boost that I

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:48

needed to continue on, you know, my journey. So, so, yeah, I

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:54

guess you're right. It's, it was built in. And, you know, you got

Todd Bertsch: 00:13:57

me thinking, Janice, like, really, where does that come

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:00

from? And I have to say, it comes back to childhood, you

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:04

know, your upbringing. And I always, even though I was doing

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:07

things that I knew I shouldn't have been doing, there was

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:11

always that little conscious, you know, that little guy right

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:15

on my shoulder, and I was always a guy that would tell others

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:20

like, I don't know if we should do that, you know, let's stay in

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:22

this kind of safe zone. So there was always a good conscious

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:27

there. Now, if that was my upbringing or my education, or,

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:30

you know, I was brought up in private and public schools and a

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:35

Catholic household, so maybe some of that was there, but so

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:39

there was always there, yeah, yeah. So you're right. I think

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:42

there, deep down, there was always something there. It's

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:44

just recognizing it and tapping into it, you know, even though I

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:49

didn't know really what it was, but it was something, and I'm

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:51

glad, you know, because, oh yeah, you know, I was able to

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:54

really turn things around. And it's funny, I was, I didn't

Todd Bertsch: 00:14:57

mention this on a show the other day, like I. I was addicted to,

Todd Bertsch: 00:15:02

you know, drugs, and now I'm addicted to growth and learning.

Todd Bertsch: 00:15:06

So you can have this kind of addiction or this obsession, you

Todd Bertsch: 00:15:10

know, of a trait, but then you can pivot it and turn it into

Todd Bertsch: 00:15:13

something really powerful. And I just can't get enough of growth

Todd Bertsch: 00:15:17

and learning and expanding my mind. And it's just amazing how

Todd Bertsch: 00:15:21

elastic and powerful the brain is. It's forgiving, although my

Todd Bertsch: 00:15:26

short term memory is not great. So I don't think I'm getting

Todd Bertsch: 00:15:28

that back and I am getting older, but hey, it is what it is

Todd Bertsch: 00:15:31

at this point. So I just, I just run with it and use, use my

Todd Bertsch: 00:15:34

sticky notes.

Janice Porter: 00:15:35

Yeah, there you go. So the other thing that that

Janice Porter: 00:15:38

I wanted to ask about, or are mentioned from what you just

Janice Porter: 00:15:41

said about turning, you know, your early 50s and, and, you

Janice Porter: 00:15:45

know, I don't know, this isn't very old book back to when I was

Janice Porter: 00:15:48

young, and it's called passages by Gail. She, he, she was like a

Janice Porter: 00:15:52

psychologist. She probably, I don't know the book's still out

Janice Porter: 00:15:56

there, but passages was a book about you go through these

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different stages each decade of your life. It might not hit

Janice Porter: 00:16:03

right on when you turn 40 or when you turn 50 or when you

Janice Porter: 00:16:06

turn 60, but in that realm, things start to change. And

Janice Porter: 00:16:09

that's exactly what I heard you say, is that even though COVID

Janice Porter: 00:16:14

was happening, you're coming into the next decade of your

Janice Porter: 00:16:17

life, and again, shit, things start to shift, and you change

Janice Porter: 00:16:22

what and and you notice that, usually, I see it going on

Janice Porter: 00:16:26

sometimes with my I have two girls with my daughters too, and

Janice Porter: 00:16:30

things shift around the decades. So I don't know. It's just some

Janice Porter: 00:16:33

I read the book many years ago.

Todd Bertsch: 00:16:35

Yeah, no, thank you. Check it out. And it's

Todd Bertsch: 00:16:38

funny. We've been talking a lot about in recent conversations,

Todd Bertsch: 00:16:41

just about seasons in life. And I think that's kind of what

Todd Bertsch: 00:16:44

you're talking about, that season could be a decade, or it

Todd Bertsch: 00:16:48

could be a couple of years, you know, it's a mile in that

Janice Porter: 00:16:51

though it's, it's because, see, I always think of

Janice Porter: 00:16:54

seasons. I think of, you know, you have friends for a season,

Janice Porter: 00:16:57

and friends for a reason, like, there's different kinds of

Janice Porter: 00:17:01

friends, that's how I see seasons. They come and they go.

Janice Porter: 00:17:04

But this is a little deeper than that, I think, in that, you

Janice Porter: 00:17:09

know? I mean, I notice it now with my work, because I'm

Janice Porter: 00:17:13

starting to think about not working as much, and I'm

Janice Porter: 00:17:16

noticing that I'm making changes without realizing it, you know,

Janice Porter: 00:17:20

I don't get up as early and I don't take appointments as late

Janice Porter: 00:17:24

and things like that, but it's just a natural progression, but

Janice Porter: 00:17:27

it's also the next phase of my life, right? Yeah, so I don't

Janice Porter: 00:17:32

know. Okay, the next thing I want to mention is a quote that

Janice Porter: 00:17:35

I saw on your website that says, and this is where we can maybe

Janice Porter: 00:17:40

get into talking about the importance of your tribe and

Janice Porter: 00:17:44

relationships. Because you say you're only as good as the

Janice Porter: 00:17:46

people, the people that you surround yourself with, or that

Janice Porter: 00:17:49

are around you, is the way you put it. But I totally I see it a

Janice Porter: 00:17:55

little bit differently, but I think that's a really good piece

Janice Porter: 00:17:58

to talk about relationships from. What do you think? Yeah,

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:03

absolutely, yeah. You're only as good as people

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:05

around you, you know, in terms of So, like I said, I have my

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:10

own business 15 years and I'm a solopreneur, so I don't have a

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:14

partner or another founder, and for so many years I was on an

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:20

island, and it was very difficult. So one of my and I

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:27

would say this to any of your listeners who are entrepreneurs,

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:30

or they're just kind of starting out first second year into their

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:33

business, don't be afraid to get off that island. I didn't know

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:38

enough. That's one of my biggest mistakes. If I could go back,

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:42

you know, I had this, this attitude, and it's just kind of

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:45

how I was brought up. I've, I've always felt like I've had to

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:49

fight and scrap my way to get where I'm at nothing was given

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:53

to me blue collar hard work, you know, just work your tail off.

Todd Bertsch: 00:18:57

And that's nothing came easy, and that's okay, because I can

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:01

appreciate it. Help build resilience and grit. But you

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:07

know, when you when you get into, you know, building

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:10

relationships and finding the right people, right to surround

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:16

yourself with, it's important, it's important to invest, invest

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:21

that time, right? And finding those people not being afraid to

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:27

get help or to ask for help. And that's, you know, I feel like I

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:30

just needed to do it all on my own accord when I was just

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:33

Maverick, and even on my own team, it took me a lot of years

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:38

before, you know, my I ran my business flat for the first 10

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:41

years, and 10 people reporting to me is ridiculous. You know,

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:46

there's just no way in hell that I could, I could really do

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:49

anything else. And I'm working, you know, 60, 7080, hours a

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:52

week, and it's affecting, you know, my health and my

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:56

relationships, you know, my personal relationships, and it

Todd Bertsch: 00:19:58

just was no good. So. So once I realized that I could get off my

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:02

island and it was okay, it was okay to ask for help. You know,

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:06

it wasn't like I was failing or I, you know, cheating, and

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:11

that's kind of how I

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felt guilty. I felt like that's so common though,

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with us, because I

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:15

thought it was me. It bothered me for so long, and

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:18

when I had this epiphany, I was actually meeting with a guy who

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:22

was kind of my fractional cmo CFO, and and a good friend and

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:27

in my tribe. And he said, Look, man, it sounds like you have a

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:32

book here or something, because you keep saying you're on an

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:34

island and, and it's funny, I ended up like creating this peer

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:39

group for business owners, you know all about getting off your

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:43

island and having kind of a safe space to meet, talk vents, share

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:50

whatever it is, because, you know, maybe that first year you

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:53

can take that home to your spouse or your partner, but

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:56

after that, they don't want to hear it. You know, maybe

Todd Bertsch: 00:20:58

they'll, you know, they'll, they'll listen, but honestly,

Todd Bertsch: 00:21:02

they don't. And finally I just realized, like, I just needed

Todd Bertsch: 00:21:06

to, to find those people so, so, yeah, I have kind of went a long

Todd Bertsch: 00:21:11

way around. But, yeah, you know, it's all about finding and

Todd Bertsch: 00:21:14

building your tribe and and I think the first step is just

Todd Bertsch: 00:21:18

recognizing that we all need help, and it's okay. It's okay

Todd Bertsch: 00:21:22

to have help. And help could be just having a person that you

Todd Bertsch: 00:21:26

could talk to

Janice Porter: 00:21:27

exactly but Okay, so there's two different sort of

Janice Porter: 00:21:30

things come to my mind here. One is, yes, having someone to talk

Janice Porter: 00:21:33

to, to be able to vent to and and share your frustrations and

Janice Porter: 00:21:38

and feel like you know, they'll guide you, or they'll they'll

Janice Porter: 00:21:42

support you, whichever way you go. And then there's those

Janice Porter: 00:21:45

people who you want to like. For me, sometimes I think I want to

Janice Porter: 00:21:52

do something new, because I'm an I'm a solo printer basically

Janice Porter: 00:21:55

too. I have a few couple of people that I get help from

Janice Porter: 00:21:59

occasionally on things. But if I have a new idea I want to move

Janice Porter: 00:22:04

forward with, I need to collaborate with someone. I

Janice Porter: 00:22:07

better when I work with somebody else. And so for me, that's

Janice Porter: 00:22:12

really where I find. I need that person, and I don't always have

Janice Porter: 00:22:17

the right person there. So I you know, I have to find that

Janice Porter: 00:22:20

person, I have a person that I can bounce things off most of

Janice Porter: 00:22:24

the time, but sometimes they don't quite see the same way I

Janice Porter: 00:22:27

do. So I think that's really important. The other piece to

Janice Porter: 00:22:30

that when we because I'm all about relationships, right? And

Janice Porter: 00:22:34

the other piece to that is, I think, and it kind of fits to

Janice Porter: 00:22:41

that old saying, which I'm actually trying to teach my

Janice Porter: 00:22:45

granddaughter, but she's a little bit young, and my one

Janice Porter: 00:22:48

daughter still has, well, her mom still has issues with that,

Janice Porter: 00:22:52

and that is and it goes with the word the phrases to to have a

Janice Porter: 00:22:58

friend, you need to Be a friend. Okay, now, if you just take that

Janice Porter: 00:23:03

friend word out and talk about it in a business setting, it's

Janice Porter: 00:23:06

the same thing. You have to nurture and care for those

Janice Porter: 00:23:10

relationships in order for them to you know, it's not one way,

Janice Porter: 00:23:15

and you can't just build that relationship and then stop it.

Janice Porter: 00:23:18

You have to nurture it. Do you want to speak to that too. Yeah,

Todd Bertsch: 00:23:22

absolutely, yeah, that's it is. It's all about

Todd Bertsch: 00:23:26

nurturing and spending that time. And you know, the way to

Todd Bertsch: 00:23:29

build, to create and build a relationship, is to build trust.

Todd Bertsch: 00:23:35

Right? And trust and respect. Neither one of those happen

Todd Bertsch: 00:23:38

overnight, correct? Those need to be nurtured and watered, and

Todd Bertsch: 00:23:43

that takes time.

Janice Porter: 00:23:44

That's probably the perfect spot where that

Janice Porter: 00:23:47

happens. It is,

Todd Bertsch: 00:23:48

yeah, it is. And, you know, one of the biggest

Todd Bertsch: 00:23:51

challenges that that I'm running into now, especially now, is I'm

Todd Bertsch: 00:23:54

meeting, like, the, you know, I just multiplied the amount of

Todd Bertsch: 00:23:58

people I'm meeting by podcasting. And I'm sure, yeah,

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:00

you like, we just made a new connection. You and I, is that

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:03

connection going to turn into a relationship? Do you want it to

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:07

do? I wanted to. Is there something there? Because that

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:10

could be great, right? Yes, but I only have so much time, and I

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:14

think it's important for people understand you. You know, yes,

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:19

relationships are amazing. We need them. They are the key,

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:22

really, to to everything. But we only have so much time and be

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:29

intentional about the relationships you create and

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:33

that you want to nurture relationships that and not to be

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:37

selfish, that you're going to get something out of it, but

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:40

relationships that compliment you but also challenge you, that

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:47

reciprocate, right? And to your point, it's not a one way

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:50

street, but they also have their like minded right share the same

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:55

core values,

Janice Porter: 00:24:57

definitely, definitely, they

Todd Bertsch: 00:24:58

need to be an entrepreneur. Or anything like

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:00

that, but at least they can relate, right? They have a hard

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:03

work ethic, they're trustworthy, they're

Janice Porter: 00:25:06

competitive on Jeopardy, competitive on

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:08

Jeopardy. They're transparent, they're authentic.

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:11

You know, these are all. I mean, everyone knows these things,

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:13

right? But I think what a lot of people don't realize is, and I

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:18

just, you know, I'm making two, three new connections a week

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:22

through this new kind of ecosystem of this podcast and

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:26

coaching and speaking, and it's awesome. That's what I want.

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:29

That's what gets me up in the morning. Is I love people. I

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:32

love meeting people. I love hearing about their stories. I'm

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:35

a great listener, and I just take it in. And I want to help.

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:38

I want to I want to help people find happiness, find

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:42

fulfillment. But again, it goes back to just how many of those

Todd Bertsch: 00:25:47

relationships am I going to nurture grow

Janice Porter: 00:25:51

right? Right? And that's fair. That's really fair.

Janice Porter: 00:25:54

I think though that also another side to that is that when we You

Janice Porter: 00:26:01

said something just recently about, you know, something that

Janice Porter: 00:26:06

we might get from a relationship. So, yes, it's a

Janice Porter: 00:26:09

two way street, but in some cases, with all these people

Janice Porter: 00:26:12

that we're meeting, if we just stay in touch on a sort of

Janice Porter: 00:26:15

consistent basis, and are in their world, not asking for

Janice Porter: 00:26:19

anything in return that can come back to you in in ways that you

Janice Porter: 00:26:24

don't expect from the law of reciprocity. So that's nice,

Janice Porter: 00:26:27

too. And so, you know, like one of the things I love to do is

Janice Porter: 00:26:32

because I'm almost at my 300th episode of my podcast, and

Janice Porter: 00:26:38

let's just Yeah, but

Todd Bertsch: 00:26:41

let's just Yeah, but let's just take a moment to

Todd Bertsch: 00:26:43

say, wow. Well, it's a lot. It is. I've I'm on my 10th episode,

Todd Bertsch: 00:26:48

and it's been an incredible amount of work. Yeah,

Janice Porter: 00:26:51

no, I get it. It is, but I want so when I look at

Janice Porter: 00:26:55

those people that I've talked to and Matt, some I knew before,

Janice Porter: 00:26:59

some I didn't know before. Most of them I didn't know. And some

Janice Porter: 00:27:03

of them I want to stay more connected to. But as you said,

Janice Porter: 00:27:06

it's really hard, so we have to, sort of, once in a while, you

Janice Porter: 00:27:09

know, stay around and see what happens and and that does, from

Janice Porter: 00:27:14

a business perspective, it that's actually really good,

Janice Porter: 00:27:18

because it brings people back into your world that maybe you

Janice Porter: 00:27:22

want to do, they want to do business with you. That didn't

Janice Porter: 00:27:26

happen back then. We just had this conversation, right? So you

Janice Porter: 00:27:30

never know. But yeah, I think I love it. Yeah, yeah. I love

Todd Bertsch: 00:27:35

what you said there. And I have something to

Todd Bertsch: 00:27:38

add to that. I think it's, it's, I think what you're getting at,

Todd Bertsch: 00:27:42

and at least for me, is I've created these buckets of

Todd Bertsch: 00:27:47

relationships, or maybe, I guess, what is a relationship,

Todd Bertsch: 00:27:52

right? Is it a connection, or is it a relationship? Are the two

Todd Bertsch: 00:27:57

equal? Are they different?

Janice Porter: 00:28:00

So what I've done, well, it's like saying,

Janice Porter: 00:28:02

Wait, that's like saying, acquaintances and friends,

Janice Porter: 00:28:07

right? Connections and relationships, right? They're

Janice Porter: 00:28:10

different, right? So,

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:12

you know, you create that buckets and those

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:14

relationships, that that group of 12 that I would call my

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:17

tribe, right? Like I could call on them anytime I would do

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:20

anything for them. We definitely have a monthly meetup, breakfast

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:26

or drinks or, you know, whatever it is. But then I have, you're

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:29

right, those connections are really important. And I've spent

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:32

time, you know, creating those, and I want to nurture those. And

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:37

you do, you need to at least keep watering that seed, right?

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:42

So it doesn't need to be every day, but if i i see a mutual

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:46

connection, or I know something about them, or what their

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:49

services, that they provide, or an article or a book, you know,

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:53

just thought of you, thought of you, and that goes back to, I

Todd Bertsch: 00:28:57

love, I don't know if you're familiar with Bob Berg book, The

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:00

Go Giver, but he was

Janice Porter: 00:29:01

on my podcast. Oh my

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:03

gosh, I went on my mind, I give that book away more

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:07

than any other book, but, yeah, so being a servant leader,

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:10

right? And just he's amazing, not asking giving more than you

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:14

get back. Yeah. In return, give her skin, as they say, Yeah. And

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:19

there's a, there's actually another book. Since I'm on that,

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:21

yeah, topic, I'm not sure if you're familiar with it. Maybe

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:24

this would be something you would like to check out. It's

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:28

from the early 2000s think 2002 His name is Tim Sanders. It's

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:33

called Love is the killer app. Don't know that one? Oh yeah.

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:37

It's a it's a great book. He was a big, a big guy at Yahoo, I

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:42

believe in the think tank, but it's, it's, it's all about

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:48

sharing. You know, it's wrapped around love, but it's kind of

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:51

like Bob's book. It's all about servant leadership, sharing your

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:54

knowledge, sharing your network, sharing your compassion. It's,

Todd Bertsch: 00:29:58

it's the love, right? Just and he calls it being a love cat.

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:02

And I love that. So there's a few guys in my network that I

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:05

call them. They're my love cats. They know everybody, and they

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:08

don't care if you ask them, they will connect you. They will do

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:11

whatever they need to do to help you out right then and there,

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:16

and they don't expect anything in return. I'm like, Yeah,

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:19

that's awesome, man, as we need more people like that. So it's a

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:22

great book, and it's very similar to Bob's book The Go

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:25

Giver just, it's all about just being a servant lever. Yeah,

Janice Porter: 00:30:28

there's so many grieving, just loving people

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:31

and sharing and being compassionate. So yeah,

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:35

it's all good.

Janice Porter: 00:30:36

Yeah, it's that's really cool. So you mentioned,

Janice Porter: 00:30:43

what's it called? Now, I just gone brain dead.

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:48

The course that you took, Positive Intelligence.

Todd Bertsch: 00:30:51

Yes, Positive Intelligence.

Janice Porter: 00:30:52

I heard about it when it was first happening. I

Janice Porter: 00:30:55

think it was early COVID times, maybe, I'm not sure. And and

Janice Porter: 00:31:01

then the people that got trained brought other people in, and

Janice Porter: 00:31:04

then they got went through the course. Is that how it still

Janice Porter: 00:31:07

operates?

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:08

Yeah? You need to be a certified PQ coach, yeah,

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:12

and go through his program, and then you can offer it, and like

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:16

any coaching, you know, program. And then there's, there's a book

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:19

too, a New York Times best selling book that you can read.

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:21

And then there's also an account. Also an accompanying

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:23

app that you can, you can utilize.

Janice Porter: 00:31:26

So can you give me a quick synopsis as to how

Janice Porter: 00:31:30

you would use that in your business? Well, you're a coach,

Janice Porter: 00:31:35

so I can see how you would do it. But well,

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:37

even in my in any business, okay, I mean, really

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:41

it's, it's a, it's a personal characteristic for me as a

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:44

leader, right? So for me, what it did, I didn't have a pause

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:50

button. I was pretty short fused. I was a hot head. My

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:55

whole life. I would go from one to 10. There was no break, there

Todd Bertsch: 00:31:59

was no pause, there was no reflection. So what this did by

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:03

me, training my brain, rewiring my brain through basically

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:10

mental exercises, just like physical exercise, I'm doing

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:13

these things, rubbing my fingers, you know, recognizing

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:17

the areas my faults, you know, in the mice, he calls them

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:21

saboteurs. You know, the things that that really throw me off my

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:25

game, that put me into a negative mindset, doing the

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:28

reps, and then eventually I can just do that. I can just rub my

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:32

fingers. And honestly, it takes me to a whole different place.

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:34

It's crazy how it works, but you're building more gray

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:38

matter, and you're really just shifting from a negative to a

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:42

positive. It's, it's that, I don't want to say it's that

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:45

simple, you know, and I still have moments, but it took a year

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:49

to really build. It's a long process. It is a long process,

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:52

but it works and so, so how that has affected me as a leader, you

Todd Bertsch: 00:32:59

know, where you know, as especially a small business,

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:02

right? Every day there's something, there's a curve ball,

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:06

you know, put put COVID aside in the economy, but there's,

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:09

there's always something, you're a small team, and anything could

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:12

happen. It just throws you off your game. You know, I would get

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:14

so upset, and it would just throw me into a negative

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:18

mindset. My recovery time was like, two, three days, yeah, you

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:21

know. And I'm not getting anything done. I got a long

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:23

list. I wear 10 hats, just like probably most of your listeners,

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:27

but now I'm just Mr. Chill, nothing. It doesn't bother me.

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:32

I'm like, You know what? So this book, this teaches you not only

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:36

to pause and reflect, but to find the gift and opportunity.

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:39

So I look at I say, You know what? Okay, last week I come in,

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:42

our internet's down. Two days, our internet's down. I mean, I'm

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:46

freaking mad, yeah, but what the hell am I going to do about it?

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:50

It's down, so I'm at the mercy of AT and T so you say, what?

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:55

Where's the gift? Okay, we can't get to the server. What can we

Todd Bertsch: 00:33:59

do? So it forces us to have other conversations, or maybe we

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:03

plan. We didn't really have a game plan in place. So now let's

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:06

say, Okay, this is forcing us to have a game plan. So when this

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:10

happens again, you know, we're a billable service or a service

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:14

company, so if my people aren't working, they can't get to the

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:17

server, they're not billing, and I'm losing money, right? So

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:20

anyhow, so yeah, it's really, it's changed me as a leader. So

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:24

it's a personal growth trait, but that is trickling down. And

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:28

then my team sees that. Sure they've seen the changes that

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:32

are making, and they've also seen that I've I've made this an

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:35

important piece of my life that I want to grow. So I'm setting

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:40

the example for them. And I actually paid to have one of my

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:42

employees go through that program as well, and it's

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:45

changed her life.

Janice Porter: 00:34:46

That's amazing. So it's,

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:47

it's cool. So, yeah, it's, you know, it's, it

Todd Bertsch: 00:34:50

works, yeah, transcends down to me. I don't know if

Janice Porter: 00:34:55

I can focus long enough anymore, but I do. I am

Janice Porter: 00:34:57

fascinated by it because it keeps coming back around. On to

Janice Porter: 00:35:00

me. So a little bit more. Unfortunately,

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:02

a lot of people don't know about it, but just

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:04

recently, more people have noticed. So I'm feeling a little

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:08

bit better. I'm like, gosh, this is a New York Times bestseller,

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:11

yeah, came from Stanford, like, but

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:13

yeah, guys got, got the pedigree for sure. That's backed by

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:17

science,

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:18

yeah, which is great.

Janice Porter: 00:35:19

Um, so let's just last couple of questions. One,

Janice Porter: 00:35:25

so, how do you absorb material best? Do you watch? Do you

Janice Porter: 00:35:32

listen? Do you read, still, real books, or what do you watch? TV?

Janice Porter: 00:35:37

Whatever?

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:38

Yeah, that's a really good question. Like other

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:42

entrepreneurs, my time is very limited. And this is actually

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:47

interesting point. My commute is seven minutes, depending on how

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:52

many lights. And one of the benefits of being an

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:55

entrepreneur is I chose where the office was going to be

Todd Bertsch: 00:35:58

located, right to my house. Yeah, so I don't have that time

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:04

that I could leverage for a podcast, yeah. So I do, I do

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:11

love to read, and I love an old school book, hardback book. I

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:16

have 30 that are on my list, but and I do podcasts. So if I'm

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:23

cutting the grass, or if I'm doing something that's going to

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:26

be for a decent period of time, raking the leaves or whatever,

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:29

I'll put on a podcast. So I do love podcasts. I don't like

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:34

audio books. I know a lot of people do. It's just not tried

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:36

that yet. Not my stick. I love just sitting down with the book

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:41

in my hand, going to a quiet place when the family's asleep,

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:44

and just getting an hour of reading in. And then I take

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:48

notes on the book. So one of the things that I've shifted this

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:54

year was I was all about and you were probably like this too,

Todd Bertsch: 00:36:57

Janice, like I just wanted to check it off. I had this, this

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:00

list, you know, or this goal of 12 books, a book a month, and I

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:04

would, Gosh, darn, I'm going to check that off. And I'm, you

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:07

know, rushing through on like I'm not really taking it in.

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:11

Yeah, so I said, You know what? And I've heard a couple other

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:14

podcasts, and people say they're reading the same book, 234,

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:17

times. Don't get that? Okay, I don't either. It's like a movie,

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:20

but I do get it now, because, you know, you could read 30

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:24

books and maybe remember pieces and parts of them, or you could

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:29

know five of the best books like the back of your hand. Yeah,

Janice Porter: 00:37:34

that's though. I do like that. You're right.

Janice Porter: 00:37:37

Because I always think, why would I want to watch that again

Janice Porter: 00:37:41

or read that again, because there's so much more out there.

Janice Porter: 00:37:44

But you're absolutely right. Yeah, I

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:47

get caught up in FOMO honestly. Yes, I meet, you

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:51

know, I have these, these business meetings, you know,

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:53

with my tribe, and my buddy says, hey, oh, you should check

Todd Bertsch: 00:37:56

out Robin sharma's new book. And I'm like, oh, man, who's that?

Janice Porter: 00:38:01

Then you got to go through the whole thing,

Janice Porter: 00:38:04

yeah? And

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:04

then I got a stack of all those books. Yeah. Now,

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:07

you know, I'm depressed because I'm 30 deep and, but it's all,

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:11

it's all good. It's, you know, I love them. I give them away.

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:14

That's my favorite thing. If all my guests on my show get a book

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:19

nice, you know, young people that I meet and mentor and and

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:22

give advice to. I give them a book, just nothing better than a

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:26

book, you know. Okay,

Janice Porter: 00:38:27

so that brings me to your last to my last

Janice Porter: 00:38:30

question, what's your best piece of advice you would put out

Janice Porter: 00:38:34

there for my audience? Yeah,

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:36

the best piece I was thinking about this one

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:38

because you gave me a little heads up. Yeah,

Janice Porter: 00:38:39

I didn't know I was going to ask that one, but

Janice Porter: 00:38:41

that's what I'm going to ask. Yeah,

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:43

no. Best, the best piece of advice I would give

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:46

that's that's really related to this show, I think, is to get

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:50

off your island. And I just had this conversation with one of my

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:53

employees, literally 10 minutes ago. My My top, you know, key

Todd Bertsch: 00:38:57

employee, and I said, you need to, you need to get off. You

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:03

need you need to find that peer group, somebody that you know

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:07

you can have that conversation with, the open, transparent

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:10

conversation in a safe space. It's not the people that report

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:14

to you, even though they're friends and you're comfortable,

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:17

you need to find someone else. I can't be that person anymore.

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:20

Yeah, I'm the owner of the company. We can have

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:23

conversations that you, that you and others can have, but there's

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:27

going to be things that you just want to have, someone else that

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:30

you can talk to, that you can vet. Maybe it's about me, and

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:33

that's fine, like you just need to find your tribe. Find your

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:37

tribe, find that group of people that can be your board of

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:40

directors, so to speak, your cabinet, whatever you want to

Todd Bertsch: 00:39:43

call it. We all need help. We all need people to talk to.

Janice Porter: 00:39:47

That's going to be this is going to be another

Janice Porter: 00:39:49

another session, another conversation. But I would love

Janice Porter: 00:39:52

to step into those young people. They're probably young people,

Janice Porter: 00:39:58

right? Ken. They see past doing it all on their phone to

Janice Porter: 00:40:05

actually having that physical connection with a group of

Janice Porter: 00:40:09

people and talk good question. I think I know we have to do that

Janice Porter: 00:40:13

next time. Yeah. I

Todd Bertsch: 00:40:14

think, yeah. 30s, yeah, yes, when you get down to

Todd Bertsch: 00:40:19

20s and the teens, and they

Janice Porter: 00:40:21

are not, my daughter's 12.

Todd Bertsch: 00:40:23

I don't know. I do worry about that. I think we're

Todd Bertsch: 00:40:25

gonna, they're gonna be on the struggle bus in terms of

Todd Bertsch: 00:40:28

building, creating, nurturing relationships, because, yeah,

Todd Bertsch: 00:40:32

you have a relationship on a phone. I don't, I don't know.

Todd Bertsch: 00:40:35

It's not the same. I'm sorry. And just being able to talk,

Todd Bertsch: 00:40:38

communicate and and and really relate and feel and see

Todd Bertsch: 00:40:44

somebody's emotions as they're looking at you, and be able to

Todd Bertsch: 00:40:47

read the room. So yeah,

Janice Porter: 00:40:49

oh, that was what I wanted to talk to you about.

Janice Porter: 00:40:51

I'm going to have to have you back, because that's the other

Janice Porter: 00:40:53

thing I wanted to talk to you about. You said something in

Janice Porter: 00:40:56

your website about being able to draw people out really quickly

Janice Porter: 00:41:01

and and, you know, get to know their life history and things

Janice Porter: 00:41:05

like that really quickly. That's me. I'm like that too. And

Janice Porter: 00:41:08

there's so many people who aren't like that that I find it,

Janice Porter: 00:41:12

it's very it's another whole socio it is sociological study.

Janice Porter: 00:41:17

You know, it

Todd Bertsch: 00:41:17

is, and I don't think that's something that you

Todd Bertsch: 00:41:20

can learn. I know. I don't either. I know, you know. And

Todd Bertsch: 00:41:24

the people that you meet, a lot of more coaches, we just, I just

Todd Bertsch: 00:41:28

had a coach on the other day, my coach was on the show, and she

Todd Bertsch: 00:41:31

said the same thing. She's like, I'm in an airport, and someone

Todd Bertsch: 00:41:34

sits, sits next to me, a total stranger, and they're telling me

Todd Bertsch: 00:41:37

their whole life story.

Janice Porter: 00:41:38

Yeah, it's a certain kind of person I know.

Janice Porter: 00:41:41

Yeah, thanks. It's cool,

Todd Bertsch: 00:41:43

though. It's a great trait to have, right? Yes,

Todd Bertsch: 00:41:46

especially if you love people and you love learning about them

Todd Bertsch: 00:41:49

and you're just being open.

Janice Porter: 00:41:51

Yeah, this is fun. Thank you, Todd, for being

Janice Porter: 00:41:53

on the show. Where can my people find you? I know they can put it

Janice Porter: 00:41:57

in the show notes, but yeah,

Todd Bertsch: 00:41:58

they can find me on my website, Todd, burch.com,

Todd Bertsch: 00:42:01

or they can find me on all the social media platforms. The

Todd Bertsch: 00:42:04

bolts with Todd, sounds good, yep, yep. And then check out my

Todd Bertsch: 00:42:09

podcast. The bolt. You can find that on all the podcast

Todd Bertsch: 00:42:13

platforms as well. So yeah, thanks, Janice, this has been a

Todd Bertsch: 00:42:16

lot of fun. You know, I think you and I have are building a

Todd Bertsch: 00:42:19

relationship here. I think so too. Connection. I love it.

Todd Bertsch: 00:42:24

Thanks for having me

Janice Porter: 00:42:25

so much. You're very welcome. Bye for now, and

Janice Porter: 00:42:27

thank you to my audience for being here, and remember to stay

Janice Porter: 00:42:29

connected and be remembered. You.