Unlocking the Entrepreneurial Brain: Transformative Strategies for ADHD Superpowers | RR259

Janice Porter: 00:00:01

Hello, hello, and welcome to this week's episode

Janice Porter: 00:00:04

of relationships rule. I am thrilled to have with me today,

Janice Porter: 00:00:09

St. Rappaport, who actually we met on LinkedIn. And I always

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love that because I start from scratch and then I meet a new

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connection who turns into a relationship and who knows where

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it's gonna go. And this is where it led us. First and foremost.

Janice Porter: 00:00:25

So first of all, welcome to the show. S T.

ST Rappaport: 00:00:28

Oh, thank you so much, Janice. I'm super excited,

ST Rappaport: 00:00:31

really excited to be here.

Janice Porter: 00:00:32

I can't not ask this question because I'm all

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about names. And I'm all about sort of word oranges, origins

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and people's origins. So I have to first say is your first and

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second name s start with St. Is it something that was because

Janice Porter: 00:00:51

your name is hard to pronounce? Or was it a nickname that how

Janice Porter: 00:00:54

did you come up with S T?

ST Rappaport: 00:00:57

Yeah, so my name is SD. Like four letters es T

ST Rappaport: 00:01:01

Iris to buy. Like Estee like Estee Lauder. Just impressed.

ST Rappaport: 00:01:05

Yes. spelled differently. Right. Exactly. Um, but when I was in

ST Rappaport: 00:01:13

school, I decided four letters was too long. And so it didn't

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make my teachers happy. But oh, so

Janice Porter: 00:01:23

that long ago that long? Because I think SD is

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third or fourth grade. Already named es TI. It's very pretty.

Janice Porter: 00:01:31

Does it? How does it mean? What does it mean? And what language

Janice Porter: 00:01:34

did that come from?

ST Rappaport: 00:01:35

It's from Esther from keeper.

Janice Porter: 00:01:37

Yes. That's what I thought, Okay. Because my

Janice Porter: 00:01:40

grandma's name was Esther. Yeah, they called her se, e s. S i e.

Janice Porter: 00:01:48

And I don't know if if you know this, but in the Jewish

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religion, when you when you name a child, you, you have to name

Janice Porter: 00:01:57

them after someone who's deceased, not someone who's

Janice Porter: 00:02:00

living right. Not like John Jr. So I wanted to name my daughter

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after my grandma. But who died when I was very young. But SE

Janice Porter: 00:02:10

and Esther didn't work for me at that point. Hang on. So I was

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looking to name my daughter after my grandma. But I didn't

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like the name Esther or SE. It was very old fashioned at the

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time, I guess. So I just used the initial offer name and her

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middle name. My daughter's middle name is Aaron. And that's

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what we do a lot. I don't know if that worked in your family

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the same way. But that's how we sort of took those name names

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forward and remembered the people in our family who are

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gone. So yeah, that's good. But that's, I'm glad I asked because

Janice Porter: 00:02:48

I know that's kind of interesting. And the other thing

Janice Porter: 00:02:53

I wanted to ask you is now I've forgotten where you live. You

Janice Porter: 00:02:57

live in Florida, right? Of course they just address you

Janice Porter: 00:03:01

live in Florida, but you're not from Are you from Florida

Janice Porter: 00:03:04

originally? No, I grew up in New Jersey. Okay, okay, but you're

Janice Porter: 00:03:08

American. You are American. I am American. Yeah. Okay. So tell me

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a little bit about I'm going to give a little bit of a blurb

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that I know about you that you are and your title, a brain

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engineer who works with ADHD entrepreneurs to unleash their

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potential via peak brain performance. And you assist them

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to optimize that ADHD so they can remove that overwhelm, get

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more done in less time, and enjoy growing their business

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again. I think what attracted me in the first place was the ADHD

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piece, because I believe that the older I've gotten, the more

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as I say, a DD or ADHD I've become, but I now have a

Janice Porter: 00:03:51

granddaughter who has ADHD. And so I'm learning more about that,

Janice Porter: 00:03:55

that how their brain functions. And first of all, how did you

Janice Porter: 00:04:00

get into this? And tell me a little bit more about it?

ST Rappaport: 00:04:04

Yeah, so I've never been diagnosed with ADHD,

ST Rappaport: 00:04:07

but my mom's ADHD, I've got brothers that are ready to eat,

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like, grew up in a family really high, high energy of ADHD. And

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so I've been learning about it since I was a really, really

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young kid. But essentially, I've been studying brains and brain

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science and how our brains think and function for a bit more than

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eight years now. And the more I got into it, the more I realized

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it really helped people with ADHD. i It really hurt me that a

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lot of what gets spoken about about ADHD is yes, people talk

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about the superpower. But what people also talk a lot about

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when it comes to ADHD is like, what a person can or cannot do.

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Like they'll always struggle with time or they'll always be

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distracted and they're like, you're gonna deal with the fact

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that this is how it's always gonna be like And to me, that

ST Rappaport: 00:05:01

sounds very limiting. I'm not the same person I was five years

ST Rappaport: 00:05:04

ago, and I'm not going to be the same person that it was in five

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years. And anyone with ADHD is the same thing. And so I really

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want got, like with my work was able to see how it really helped

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people get rid of those struggles and ADHD could just be

ST Rappaport: 00:05:18

a superpower without those limitations.

Janice Porter: 00:05:21

Hmm. So first thing that came to mind when you

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said in your background, you have family members who have

Janice Porter: 00:05:28

been diagnosed with ADHD, did you get tested for it too? Or

Janice Porter: 00:05:31

just they didn't?

ST Rappaport: 00:05:33

Yeah, I just never got tested for it. I'm most

ST Rappaport: 00:05:35

definitely like ADHD traits or tendencies, I guess. Probably

ST Rappaport: 00:05:39

just like, it's a bit of a spectrum, I guess. Right. Like,

ST Rappaport: 00:05:42

how much ADHD right? Compared to the other people in my family?

ST Rappaport: 00:05:46

It was a lot.

Janice Porter: 00:05:48

Okay, because every time I've listened to you

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on, you know, I've listened to some snippets of you on podcasts

Janice Porter: 00:05:54

and things you talk really fast. Right? And well, for my family.

Janice Porter: 00:05:59

Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Okay, interesting. And

Janice Porter: 00:06:03

the other thing I thought was fascinating was that you didn't

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start reading till you were five.

ST Rappaport: 00:06:10

I was still going for reading tutors in fifth

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grade.

Janice Porter: 00:06:15

I mean, was it Einstein that didn't read until

Janice Porter: 00:06:17

he was seven or something or didn't?

ST Rappaport: 00:06:20

Yeah, I was reading an eight 910 11. But

ST Rappaport: 00:06:24

it's really took me to like, did this work at 11 years old,

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working on my brain that like I was able to read like, fluidly

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and not being shy about it and things like that.

Janice Porter: 00:06:34

Did you find it frustrating? Before that,

ST Rappaport: 00:06:37

I was very frustrated. I was super shy

ST Rappaport: 00:06:39

about it, I found it. Like, I would have to find all different

ST Rappaport: 00:06:44

techniques and like tactics to like work around it. So I

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couldn't so like say I learned from a really young age to like

ST Rappaport: 00:06:50

skim books, because like I still wanted to read because I could

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read some words, but like old big words I couldn't read. So

ST Rappaport: 00:06:57

till this day, like if I don't force myself to stop and read,

ST Rappaport: 00:07:00

I'm just going to skim and have a really low vocabulary spelling

ST Rappaport: 00:07:04

was really bad. Like I got made fun of a lot of it for me, I

ST Rappaport: 00:07:06

never want to be that holdout, which are like us to read. So

ST Rappaport: 00:07:11

yeah, it wasn't it wasn't very funny.

Janice Porter: 00:07:13

Well, and, and it's like, I was a teacher. And

Janice Porter: 00:07:17

so I know, it's not easy to and I look, and I watch my

Janice Porter: 00:07:21

granddaughter, she's in a hurry to do everything. But when it

Janice Porter: 00:07:24

comes to trying to like to she only four and a half. So she's,

Janice Porter: 00:07:29

you know, she's still learning about words, and so on as well.

Janice Porter: 00:07:33

But she'd much rather be physical than sit and try and

Janice Porter: 00:07:38

read or try and, you know, do it. But she's got some

Janice Porter: 00:07:41

interesting concepts that she has, which are kind of cool. But

Janice Porter: 00:07:45

okay, so you got into this peak brain performance. And I think

Janice Porter: 00:07:49

you say you have there are 28 brain functions. That

ST Rappaport: 00:07:55

skills. Yeah, right skills,

Janice Porter: 00:07:57

sorry, 28 skills. You say it better than I do. So

Janice Porter: 00:08:02

explain it to me. Yeah.

ST Rappaport: 00:08:05

So there are 28 thinking skills. Or another name

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for them is cognitive functions. I just like to say skills

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because they're a little bit simpler. But essentially, we

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tend to think of thinking as like, oh, now I'm thinking,

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we're really while you're doing any task, including listening to

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this podcast, you're thinking your brain is processing your

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brain saying like, how is this relevant to my life? How is this

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not what do I like this to it? All that is thinking, driving

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your brain is thinking, figuring out can I turn can I not

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running, talking to a person talking to a client, all that is

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thinking, right? And though those parts of thinking are,

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there's 28 of these parts that make up these actions. Now,

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naturally, we will have stronger ones and weaker ones, I mean,

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like with 28 of them, some of them are going to be stronger,

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right? And some of them are going to be weaker. And those

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weaker ones are making it really challenging for us to do what we

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want to do. So I'll give you an example. I was just speaking

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today to an entrepreneur who was saying how a lot of times he's

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struggling with employees and with colleagues because it takes

ST Rappaport: 00:09:11

him a really long to express himself and relationships are

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really hard for him to build because he right he they asked

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one question, and he sends back like four long paragraphs or

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something that could be in like one sentence, and they're like,

ST Rappaport: 00:09:25

I don't get this. That comes from thinking skills,

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specifically, this case is guns. It's called giving up before

ST Rappaport: 00:09:33

response, being able to express yourself in a clear and cohesive

ST Rappaport: 00:09:35

manner.

Janice Porter: 00:09:37

Yep. Okay. So what are some of the most common

Janice Porter: 00:09:43

issues that people come to you with who say, you know, my

Janice Porter: 00:09:47

business is just, I'm all over the map. I can't find I can't

Janice Porter: 00:09:51

move forward because you know, I can't function properly. What

Janice Porter: 00:09:54

are the like three most common things that people come to you

Janice Porter: 00:09:58

to help get help with?

ST Rappaport: 00:09:59

Yeah. so big on just like you said all over the

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map all over the place, things are just over the super

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overwhelmed whenever there's a lot of information getting

ST Rappaport: 00:10:07

overwhelmed struggling to get started on task because they're

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just like way too much information. It's cold, nothing

ST Rappaport: 00:10:13

is skilled that is related to guys called clear perception.

ST Rappaport: 00:10:17

Okay? Essentially, we take in information through our five

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senses. So you're now taking in this podcast or listening right?

ST Rappaport: 00:10:25

When you touch something, you're picking information through your

ST Rappaport: 00:10:28

sense of touch. Most of the time, the information coming

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into your brain is coming in in a clear and organized way. But

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if there's a lot of information coming in, you get a becomes

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blurry, and it becomes overwhelmed. And we just want to

ST Rappaport: 00:10:46

not do it ever opened up a room open the door to a really messy

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room that you know, you needed to clean. But instead of going

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in to clean it, you just went out and close the door. Yep.

Janice Porter: 00:10:57

I always say to myself, I have to be in the mood

Janice Porter: 00:10:59

or be ready to tackle that task. Yeah,

ST Rappaport: 00:11:06

actually is Why do you have to be ready because

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your brain has to be ready to deal with information overload

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that is about to enter your brain. However, the stronger

ST Rappaport: 00:11:17

this thinking skill of clear perception is, the more

ST Rappaport: 00:11:20

information you can take in without overwhelming you.

Janice Porter: 00:11:24

So I was listening to you, on my walk the

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other day talking. It was your more recent episodes where

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you're using samples, and stories of people that you've

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actually worked with. And I think you might say then to

Janice Porter: 00:11:41

that, you know, try doing one more thing and try doing two

Janice Porter: 00:11:46

things like you have a method for helping people very quickly

Janice Porter: 00:11:51

with moving through that. Yes, yeah. Can you give me one of

Janice Porter: 00:11:56

those examples in this year?

ST Rappaport: 00:11:58

Sure. Excited, okay, so because we use our five

ST Rappaport: 00:12:03

senses, to take in information, we're going to help our brain

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picking this information through our five senses in a clear and

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organized way. So we're gonna go through the five senses, and ask

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ourselves, what do I see? And literally list out say out loud,

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what you see, you open that room, I see laundry, I see

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papers, I see pens, and what is happening is there. As you're

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listing it out, your brain is able to take in the information,

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one by one, instead of just being overwhelmed by this

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massive mess. After you list out a bunch of things that you see,

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what do you hear, Oh, I hear the AC is on I hear the cars

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outside? What do I hear? What do I smell? What do I feel? And

ST Rappaport: 00:12:47

what do I taste tastes will probably just be like your

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saliva unless you just drink coffee or something, you know,

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like, by just to go through those five senses. And then your

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brain is not overwhelmed anymore. And you can ask

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yourself the question, What's my starting point? What's the first

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thing you need to do? Just like that, and you will find yourself

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picking up garbage, you will find yourself putting papers

ST Rappaport: 00:13:08

away, you will find yourself being able to do it because your

ST Rappaport: 00:13:10

brain is just not overwhelmed anymore by the amount of

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information is coming is much more clear organized. The cool

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part is here's where the cool part is. If you do it enough

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times, you won't have to do anymore.

Janice Porter: 00:13:26

Because it's changing how you think. Changing

Janice Porter: 00:13:30

that cognitive function. You got it? Yeah. Okay, interesting.

Janice Porter: 00:13:34

Okay, so the overwhelm is one, one piece that an entrepreneur

Janice Porter: 00:13:38

might come to you with? What's another one?

ST Rappaport: 00:13:41

Okay, this is another one. That's going to be

ST Rappaport: 00:13:44

very surprising for many of you. Do you ever struggle to make

ST Rappaport: 00:13:49

decisions? or know someone who does?

Janice Porter: 00:13:51

Oh, my, yeah. Not me so much as my husband and one

Janice Porter: 00:13:55

of my daughters. Yeah, you could die before they make a decision.

Janice Porter: 00:13:58

Yeah.

ST Rappaport: 00:14:00

That comes from the cognitive function of

ST Rappaport: 00:14:02

comparisons. Because what happens most times when we're

ST Rappaport: 00:14:06

talking about two options, we say, I like option A, because

ST Rappaport: 00:14:12

it's cheaper. I like option B, because it's bigger. But what

ST Rappaport: 00:14:18

it's talking about price, it's talking about size. You are not

ST Rappaport: 00:14:21

comparing them on the same

Janice Porter: 00:14:24

level. Apples to Apples, right?

ST Rappaport: 00:14:27

Yeah, there you go. I see. You're really strong

ST Rappaport: 00:14:30

at this cognitive function.

Janice Porter: 00:14:34

Okay, well, that's encouraging. Okay, I have

Janice Porter: 00:14:36

my own issues. But there you go. Okay. So I'm sorry to interrupt,

Janice Porter: 00:14:39

but I'm

ST Rappaport: 00:14:40

going to do all have ones that we can write.

ST Rappaport: 00:14:42

Because there's like no such thing as like having a perfect

ST Rappaport: 00:14:44

brain, you know, these optimize your brain more, right? Anyway,

ST Rappaport: 00:14:48

so back to comparisons. So if you want to improve this

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cognitive function of comparisons to make better

ST Rappaport: 00:14:54

decisions, to organize your life better, any of that sort of

ST Rappaport: 00:14:57

thing, you want to take two items and compare them on the

ST Rappaport: 00:15:00

same parameter. Okay, so list out all the things that you want

ST Rappaport: 00:15:04

to compare it on. Price size, texture, manufacturer, whatever

ST Rappaport: 00:15:10

it is, yeah. And then you're making your decision based on

ST Rappaport: 00:15:15

which parameter is most important to get clear on what's

ST Rappaport: 00:15:20

most important, you don't walk into the customer into the

ST Rappaport: 00:15:23

comparison and say, oh, a is cheaper, and b is bigger. But

ST Rappaport: 00:15:28

you know, this situation, size matters to me more. And so I can

ST Rappaport: 00:15:34

buy the bigger one without a be a whole, like, big deal. Because

ST Rappaport: 00:15:40

you know, size is important. Obviously, size is important,

ST Rappaport: 00:15:43

too. And amount, if it's like a million dollars more than like,

ST Rappaport: 00:15:47

no, but like you understand you have that priorities is really

ST Rappaport: 00:15:51

clear in your brain with the comparisons. So to actually get

ST Rappaport: 00:15:54

better at this, you want to take two random things you have in

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your house to rent a thing next to you a pen and a phone or

ST Rappaport: 00:15:59

whatever. And just compare them on the same level, but a bunch

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of different attributes a bunch of different parameters, color,

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size, texture, weight, whatever you could think of, and then

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fill it out for each other. Once you've comfortable doing two

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things, compare three things, and four things. And you can

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make this even more challenging by comparing abstract things,

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not just things you have in your, in your, like on your, on

ST Rappaport: 00:16:25

your desk around you, but like what about two tasks that you

ST Rappaport: 00:16:28

have to do? Or what about two personality traits or to

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potential hierarchies, or things like that.

Janice Porter: 00:16:36

So I keep coming back to, if I'm comparing these

Janice Porter: 00:16:40

things, especially in the the, the objects to things that I

Janice Porter: 00:16:48

maybe want to purchase, or whatever, I tend to come back to

Janice Porter: 00:16:52

and maybe this is just a different way of thinking of it?

Janice Porter: 00:16:55

I don't know. But rather than comparing them for what they

Janice Porter: 00:17:00

are, I have to come inside myself and say, Do I really need

Janice Porter: 00:17:06

this? Do I need the one that's bigger? Do I need? You know,

Janice Porter: 00:17:09

like, it's not comparing the two objects, but it's like, let's be

Janice Porter: 00:17:13

real with. Okay, go ahead. Yeah.

ST Rappaport: 00:17:17

Okay. So essentially, what there's,

ST Rappaport: 00:17:19

there's, there's two steps to this comparison, there's

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comparing the two objects, and there's getting clear on what

ST Rappaport: 00:17:27

attributes are most important to you. Okay, that also applies. So

ST Rappaport: 00:17:31

that's what you're doing by going inside, you're getting

ST Rappaport: 00:17:33

clear on it. But that is also comparing because you're

ST Rappaport: 00:17:36

comparing the attributes of like, by saying, Do I really

ST Rappaport: 00:17:40

need the big one, you're comparing the attribute of like,

ST Rappaport: 00:17:43

size to Prime Minister, whatever it is,

Janice Porter: 00:17:46

yeah, yeah. It's fascinating, really, actually.

Janice Porter: 00:17:48

But that kind of breaks it down. Maybe those those listeners who

Janice Porter: 00:17:53

struggle with things like making decisions might be able to grasp

Janice Porter: 00:17:57

onto something simple like that, to make it easier for

Janice Porter: 00:18:00

themselves. So that's great. Okay, so we talked about the

Janice Porter: 00:18:03

comparison, we talked about the first one, which which is

Janice Porter: 00:18:06

completely left my head at the moment now. So

ST Rappaport: 00:18:10

right, that what was it? clear perception? It's

Janice Porter: 00:18:13

your perception. And that, yes, and what's the

Janice Porter: 00:18:15

third one that's most common? A third one,

ST Rappaport: 00:18:18

especially with ADHD, really, really, really

ST Rappaport: 00:18:22

big. One is understanding time, big word and the ADHD world is

ST Rappaport: 00:18:27

time blindness, and not realizing how long tasks how,

ST Rappaport: 00:18:32

how long a task takes always running late to appointments,

ST Rappaport: 00:18:37

leaving tasks for last minute, anything related to time, falls

ST Rappaport: 00:18:41

under this cognitive function of time. Now, you mentioned

ST Rappaport: 00:18:45

Einstein in the beginning. Well, ADHD is then also struggle with

ST Rappaport: 00:18:49

time and always said that time is one of the most abstract

ST Rappaport: 00:18:52

things. And one of the most complex things for our brain to

ST Rappaport: 00:18:55

understand, because it is very abstract. But he didn't say it's

ST Rappaport: 00:18:59

impossible, it is possible, you it's just a little bit more

ST Rappaport: 00:19:03

challenging. So some of my favorite ways to get better at

ST Rappaport: 00:19:09

this cognitive functions, or to start getting better, I should

ST Rappaport: 00:19:12

say, is you want to buy those big, huge desktop calendars,

ST Rappaport: 00:19:18

those big ones, yeah, and hang them up on the wall in front of

ST Rappaport: 00:19:21

you. But not just for this month, for the next 234 or even

ST Rappaport: 00:19:25

five or six months. Because what's going to happen is it's

ST Rappaport: 00:19:29

going to train your brain to be able to look ahead, and as you

ST Rappaport: 00:19:31

put important dates on there, and in meetings and different

ST Rappaport: 00:19:34

things that you're happening, who you meeting, when it's going

ST Rappaport: 00:19:37

to start giving your brain and understanding of like, oh, this

ST Rappaport: 00:19:39

is next week. And if that's happening next week, I need to

ST Rappaport: 00:19:42

do this task before such when it's visual in front of you, it

ST Rappaport: 00:19:46

makes a much it makes it more concrete, right because times

ST Rappaport: 00:19:49

abstract. You're making it concrete by putting it on an

ST Rappaport: 00:19:52

actual physical count. Another thing that you can really do is

ST Rappaport: 00:19:57

that often people with ADHD tend to either over us Somebody no

ST Rappaport: 00:20:00

longer task is going to take or underestimate how long a task is

ST Rappaport: 00:20:03

going to take. So help your brain actually understand it for

ST Rappaport: 00:20:06

the next week, time, all the tasks that you do often, how

ST Rappaport: 00:20:11

long does a Zoom meeting with a new potential client? Actually

ST Rappaport: 00:20:16

take you? Or

Janice Porter: 00:20:17

have to take? Right? That's like you said,

Janice Porter: 00:20:19

yeah, exactly. Yes,

ST Rappaport: 00:20:21

exactly. And obviously, there's gonna be

ST Rappaport: 00:20:23

average, right? Because like, sometimes it's gonna be a little

ST Rappaport: 00:20:25

bit longer. So you time a few, when you get an average, how

ST Rappaport: 00:20:28

long does it actually take you to take a shower, or to put up

ST Rappaport: 00:20:31

dinner and then if like, You're five minutes before, you have to

ST Rappaport: 00:20:33

run up the door for an appointment, and you're like,

ST Rappaport: 00:20:35

oh, I want to just put up dinner. But now you know that

ST Rappaport: 00:20:38

putting up dinner doesn't take five minutes, it takes more like

ST Rappaport: 00:20:40

20, then it's like, oh, I actually can start this now. And

ST Rappaport: 00:20:43

you'll be on time for your career.

Janice Porter: 00:20:45

That's a good one for me actually, to look at. It

Janice Porter: 00:20:48

was interesting, I got a call last night, from somebody I

Janice Porter: 00:20:53

hadn't talked to for a long, long time. And I didn't know him

Janice Porter: 00:20:56

that well. And I had called him about something and left a

Janice Porter: 00:21:01

message. And he had called me back a couple of days later. And

Janice Porter: 00:21:04

so we were having this conversation, I needed to ask

Janice Porter: 00:21:07

him something that he could refer me to somebody to help

Janice Porter: 00:21:11

with. And we got into the conversation, you know, how's

Janice Porter: 00:21:14

your family? You know, what are you up to? And we did all that

Janice Porter: 00:21:17

and the niceties and, and then I asked him, and then I felt a

Janice Porter: 00:21:21

lull, I felt like, the conversation was kind of done,

Janice Porter: 00:21:26

but we didn't like he didn't say anything else. So I found that I

Janice Porter: 00:21:30

had to say that so great that you were able to help me, thank

Janice Porter: 00:21:33

you so much. And, you know, let's get together for coffee

Janice Porter: 00:21:37

book something maybe next week or the week after. And that was

Janice Porter: 00:21:40

kind of ending it and helping him know that it was ending it.

Janice Porter: 00:21:44

You know, like, sometimes you have to take control of those

Janice Porter: 00:21:47

things, because they can give awkward. Right? I know, it's

Janice Porter: 00:21:52

just an aside, but it is sort of hit me as

ST Rappaport: 00:21:55

part of the relationships part. You know, of

ST Rappaport: 00:21:58

course, you understand their way the other energy and see like,

ST Rappaport: 00:22:00

what's actually happening here. Yeah, and

Janice Porter: 00:22:03

as far as the time thing, it's interesting.

Janice Porter: 00:22:05

My, my little granddaughter, she of course, once she gets hold of

Janice Porter: 00:22:11

an iPad, she wants to be on it forever, because she's just a

Janice Porter: 00:22:15

kid of the 21st century, right. And she, it actually calms her

Janice Porter: 00:22:19

down, which is really kind of cool. But we have to limit it,

Janice Porter: 00:22:22

right? Because she could sit on it. So we'll say, you know,

Janice Porter: 00:22:25

Amara, you can play on the iPad now, because I know that she's

Janice Porter: 00:22:28

been out riding her bike for three hours, and she's just

Janice Porter: 00:22:31

needs to sit down and calm down. But, but I'm going to put the

Janice Porter: 00:22:35

timer on 20 minutes. That's it. So because she'll go, Oh, can

Janice Porter: 00:22:39

you just have 10 more minutes, grandma 10 more minutes or

Janice Porter: 00:22:41

whatever, right? And she'll push it and push it and push it. But

Janice Porter: 00:22:43

she at least gets a sense of the timeframe when the timer goes

Janice Porter: 00:22:49

off. So it works sometimes.

ST Rappaport: 00:22:53

No, well, you're she's still young. And yes, of

ST Rappaport: 00:22:55

course. Yes. Right. And also, it's not just understanding the

ST Rappaport: 00:22:58

time. It's like the negotiation, right. Like it's exactly. It's

ST Rappaport: 00:23:02

fun. It's not like, oh, yeah, if I told her to clean her room for

ST Rappaport: 00:23:06

10 more minutes. Yeah, exactly.

Janice Porter: 00:23:08

I know. I know, she loved. It's just

Janice Porter: 00:23:10

interesting, though, to watch how that brain works. But so do

Janice Porter: 00:23:16

you? Do you see when you're talking to maybe you're

Janice Porter: 00:23:23

networking, or maybe you're actually doing some prospecting

Janice Porter: 00:23:28

calls? And you know, Discovery calls or whatever? Do you notice

Janice Porter: 00:23:33

if someone has ADHD? Can you pick it up pretty quickly?

ST Rappaport: 00:23:37

Yes. So I personally don't love to just

ST Rappaport: 00:23:40

like label people ADHD.

Janice Porter: 00:23:42

And I understand that, yeah, I Yeah.

ST Rappaport: 00:23:46

But especially if I'm looking to help them right,

ST Rappaport: 00:23:48

like a potential client or something, then I'm looking to

ST Rappaport: 00:23:51

see which one of their thinking skills are weak. Now, people

ST Rappaport: 00:23:54

with ADHD often tend to have similar weak thinking skills,

ST Rappaport: 00:23:56

including the three that we just said. And so I'm not diagnosing

ST Rappaport: 00:24:01

and I'm not a physician diagnosed, but most definitely,

ST Rappaport: 00:24:05

I'm looking more at the skills and what I like about the skills

ST Rappaport: 00:24:08

is because they're skills, that means you can learn them by just

ST Rappaport: 00:24:12

saying a person who has ADHD, it's like, okay, now well, you

ST Rappaport: 00:24:15

know

Janice Porter: 00:24:20

what happened? And

ST Rappaport: 00:24:22

we're here, but he's talking the whole time. You

ST Rappaport: 00:24:24

know, I

Janice Porter: 00:24:24

know, I know. And that says, I'm saying skills.

Janice Porter: 00:24:29

Talk about a lot, right? That's so funny. Okay, so no, I was

Janice Porter: 00:24:33

actually just taking a quick look because I couldn't remember

Janice Porter: 00:24:36

what your education was actually in. And and then I remembered

Janice Porter: 00:24:45

that you had been a photographer. And that would

Janice Porter: 00:24:50

give you a whole different perspective on people. So how

Janice Porter: 00:24:54

did you go from that to what you're doing now?

ST Rappaport: 00:24:58

Okay, so I I've never actually thought that I'd

ST Rappaport: 00:25:01

be doing what I'm doing. Now, I'd like I said, I thought that

ST Rappaport: 00:25:04

when I was 11, I was in the band. And I saw how much like,

ST Rappaport: 00:25:08

even as 11 year old, I saw how much to change me, not just in

ST Rappaport: 00:25:11

my reading, but like my whole life. And so I knew how to live

ST Rappaport: 00:25:14

and I want to to learn it, but just to learn it because I love

ST Rappaport: 00:25:18

learning. And I'm like, I want to have this in my back pocket.

ST Rappaport: 00:25:21

But I started at 14, I think was my first photography business.

ST Rappaport: 00:25:24

And I've been doing photography in college, like I went to the

ST Rappaport: 00:25:26

studio when I had overtop of the business. But I started this

ST Rappaport: 00:25:30

training. When I started this training. This is the four years

ST Rappaport: 00:25:35

being training, yes. Okay. Now, the forest scene training is

ST Rappaport: 00:25:38

quite a process of a training, right? And takes time and like

ST Rappaport: 00:25:42

to really get into it. And so I would do the training while I

ST Rappaport: 00:25:45

was also doing photography business, and there was a story

ST Rappaport: 00:25:51

how deep do you want me to go into it?

Janice Porter: 00:25:54

Not too deep at this point. Yeah. Okay. So

Janice Porter: 00:25:57

essentially, what

ST Rappaport: 00:25:57

I realized was at that point that I had another

ST Rappaport: 00:26:00

like, massive transformation. And I realized that successful

ST Rappaport: 00:26:03

people need this also. Because there's a lot of like, right,

ST Rappaport: 00:26:06

like, until then, I thought it was like only for people with

ST Rappaport: 00:26:07

learning disabilities, or children or things like that.

ST Rappaport: 00:26:10

And I was like, people with businesses need this because I

ST Rappaport: 00:26:12

literally started saving over 10 hours every week from like,

ST Rappaport: 00:26:15

another improved cognitive function. And like, my business,

ST Rappaport: 00:26:17

like, doubled and tripled, and it was like, changed everything.

ST Rappaport: 00:26:21

And that's when I was like, other people could be

ST Rappaport: 00:26:23

photographers, like, I'm gonna go do this. Oh,

Janice Porter: 00:26:26

interesting. Interesting. Well, it's

Janice Porter: 00:26:28

fascinating, really, and people can read I think more about you

Janice Porter: 00:26:32

and your work on your website, right, which is still lifepics.

Janice Porter: 00:26:35

University. Yes, yes. Yeah. And before we go, I want to ask you

Janice Porter: 00:26:42

a couple of quick questions that I like to ask a form of to my

Janice Porter: 00:26:47

guests. And one I want to ask you first is because of what you

Janice Porter: 00:26:52

said earlier, when you are taking in information do you

Janice Porter: 00:26:57

prefer to? And I'm sure the answer is no, but I could be

Janice Porter: 00:27:00

completely wrong. Do you prefer to read Listen, or watch? like

Janice Porter: 00:27:07

reading books, reading, you know, versus videos versus

Janice Porter: 00:27:10

podcasts? That kind of thing? Honestly, it

ST Rappaport: 00:27:12

depends what, what my like goal is like what I'm

ST Rappaport: 00:27:16

trying to do. Um, the best way to get it in is actually

ST Rappaport: 00:27:22

listening and reading at the same time.

ST Rappaport: 00:27:24

Okay. Okay. Yeah. You're getting

ST Rappaport: 00:27:27

both, but not always. Is that possible, right. Like I usually,

ST Rappaport: 00:27:31

like usually more about, like, how can I learn more in this

ST Rappaport: 00:27:33

moment? So if I'm driving like, yes.

Janice Porter: 00:27:36

Yeah. Like that. Yeah. Okay. That's like me, I

Janice Porter: 00:27:39

like to do that, too. But it's funny, I bought a book the other

Janice Porter: 00:27:42

day that someone had I'd seen someone told me about, and I'm

Janice Porter: 00:27:46

all about relationships in this book that's really interesting

Janice Porter: 00:27:49

about that, but easy enough to read, because it had stories in

Janice Porter: 00:27:52

it about people. And I started reading it. But only like, I

Janice Porter: 00:27:57

can't read it when I'm out walking, or I'm, you know, so.

Janice Porter: 00:28:00

So I'm reading it before I go to bed. And I'm not sure I'm

Janice Porter: 00:28:03

getting enough out of it, because I'm tired at that time.

Janice Porter: 00:28:06

So that sort of affects my reading time as well, because I

Janice Porter: 00:28:10

there's too much to do during the day. Anyway, that's another

Janice Porter: 00:28:13

thing I have to figure out. The second question I'd like to ask

Janice Porter: 00:28:17

you, and then I have one more after that is what is your take

Janice Porter: 00:28:22

on curiosity? Do you think it's innate or learned? And second

Janice Porter: 00:28:27

part to that question is what are you most curious about these

Janice Porter: 00:28:30

days? Okay.

ST Rappaport: 00:28:32

I personally think that we are all it's innate,

ST Rappaport: 00:28:35

real born with curiosity. That's how we learn. But I think it

ST Rappaport: 00:28:38

gets destroyed. Okay. And I am most curious about humans,

ST Rappaport: 00:28:46

everything about human so the human brain, human biology,

ST Rappaport: 00:28:49

human relationships, human interactions, all of that, but

ST Rappaport: 00:28:53

But you mind just fascinate me so much. All right.

Janice Porter: 00:28:56

That's fair enough. That's awesome. And last

Janice Porter: 00:28:58

question, would be just what is your best piece of business

Janice Porter: 00:29:03

advice for the entrepreneurs who are listening today?

ST Rappaport: 00:29:08

Okay, I think that you want your brain or you want

ST Rappaport: 00:29:13

yourself to be able to do contradicting strategies and to

ST Rappaport: 00:29:17

be able to develop the skill to learn what to know, when giving

ST Rappaport: 00:29:21

an example. You want to be able to, like, just take action and

ST Rappaport: 00:29:25

not get stuck and like move in and take action. At the same

ST Rappaport: 00:29:29

time. You also want to have this skill and ability to stop, to

ST Rappaport: 00:29:33

think, to strategize to figure out what I'm going to do. But

ST Rappaport: 00:29:38

you can be really good at both of those. But if you don't know

ST Rappaport: 00:29:40

which one to do when it doesn't help you. So learn contradicting

ST Rappaport: 00:29:45

strategies and learn and develop the skill to figure out what to

ST Rappaport: 00:29:49

do one.

Janice Porter: 00:29:50

Right advice. Very, very good. This is so much

Janice Porter: 00:29:53

fun. Thank you so much for stopping by today, and for

Janice Porter: 00:29:59

answering all my questions. and sharing your knowledge around

Janice Porter: 00:30:04

the the font, the 28 cognitive brain functions right? And the

Janice Porter: 00:30:10

skills around them. So that's really that's really fun. So,

Janice Porter: 00:30:14

thank you. Thank you for being here. Thank you to my audience

Janice Porter: 00:30:18

for being here. And if you liked what you heard, please leave a

Janice Porter: 00:30:21

review and share it with a couple of friends because we

Janice Porter: 00:30:24

love to spread the word about people like St. Rapoport. So

Janice Porter: 00:30:28

thank you so much and remember to stay connected and be

Janice Porter: 00:30:32

remembered. Thank you, Janice. This was fun.