The Enlightened Passenger – an Inspirational Conversation with Corey Poirier | RR264

Janice Porter: 00:00:01

Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's

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episode of relationships rule. My guest this week is Cory,

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Cory. And Cory and I have spoken before on my podcast and

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checking back, it was just over two years ago, January episode

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143, when I got to know Corey and all of his work, and, and

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now I'm so happy to have him back because he has a new book

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that is fascinating that we want to talk about. And first of all,

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I'm going to welcome you to the show.

Corey Poirier: 00:00:33

Well, thank you so much. So excited to be here.

Janice Porter: 00:00:36

Thank you. And second, to just reiterate just

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briefly, the the wealth of your career from stand up comedy, to

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TEDx speaker to teaching other people how to be TEDx speakers,

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to being an author to being a podcast host, and being

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recognized in Success Magazine, being I don't know. So

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interviewing over like, 7000, of the world's top leaders. And I

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think all of this is now come in combination with this new book,

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right? The Enlightened passenger, as it's called, it's

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not even out yet, right? It's the Enlightened passenger, the

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flight that changes everything is the name of your new book,

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and I congratulate you on it. Tell me a little bit about

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because I read it, and I loved it. And it reminded me have some

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other things. But I have quit until I have questions. But tell

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me how long has that been brewing for you? And how did it

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take shape?

Corey Poirier: 00:01:41

So the brewing, I mean, it kind of both ties

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together. But the word brewing, if I looked at it from

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perspective of before I started actually writing it, because

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that was an actual timeline. It was about a year. So from the

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point where I said, I have this idea, to the point where I

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started working on that idea. That was about a year. So I knew

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what I'll say it this way, I knew what the ending was going

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to be, before I knew anything else about the book. So it was

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kind of written, Quentin Tarantino, for those that

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familiar with him as a director and writer, he had this habit of

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kind of writing, starting with the end of the movie, and then

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working his way back. And I would say that this book was

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kind of written like that. Like, again, I started with the end in

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mind and work my way back. That started a year, a year before

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any words started coming to life. Now, every now and then I

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would think, Oh, you know what I should do? You know, I should do

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this, oh, I should add this. But it was just more like in my

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head, here's what I'd like to do. And my wife kept saying, are

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you ever going to write that book he told me about, like, she

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didn't know much about it. She just knew the ending as well, as

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ever gonna write that book? And I said, Yeah, I think so. And

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eventually, I finally decided that it was time and we went on

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a family vacation for two weeks at a cottage by the water and I

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don't swim, and her and the kids swim. So I, she said, you know,

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while we're swimming, either gonna sit in the beach or you

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sit in the room, it doesn't matter. But why don't you work

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that book. So I wrote the first half of the book on that

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vacation. And then I never touched it for another few

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months. And then I tinker and put six pages together. So it

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took me about another year. From the point where I started typing

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until the book was I'll call it first draft complete. The one

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thing that was different about this book than anything else

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I've ever written, Janice is that once I hit that, that mark,

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interestingly, I had a beta group. So everything about the

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book I've done in kind of like a very intentional pattern. It

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wasn't just like, let's write a book, put it out in the world,

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and hope it does well. And it was like, let's find out if it's

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a good book, or if it needs to be changed or where it's good.

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So I got a beta group together, but 25 to 30. People sent them

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the book. And essentially, I gave them sort of instructions.

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And I said, I'm not looking for grammar, right. I will tell you,

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I still got back three or four. I used to be a retired teacher

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or a teacher. And that's me, I get it, I get it. Yes, I still

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have to tell you these 50 things you need to change. But I made

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it clear, we hadn't edited it yet. Like we had a I'll call it.

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I don't even know the terms like a line edit, like not aligned at

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it. But like a proof editor or whatever, where it's just like,

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go through a quick and make sure you catch on the most obvious

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stuff. And so we sent it out. And here's where it was kind of

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interesting or fascinating to me, because it was unlike

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anything else I've ever done. Most of the comments were, I

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mean, there were some obviously exceptions, but most of the

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comments were either I noticed a lot of grammar, but fix that and

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the book is ready. Or I didn't even care about the grammar get

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this book in print so I can hold up my hands. And that was

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fascinating to me, because that was my first draft. And I'm used

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to the idea that you should write a crappy book before you

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write a good book. And then a good Book and edit it well,

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before it becomes a great book, I'm not used to the idea of

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sending a book out, and most people saying I wouldn't change

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anything. That was really weird to me. And I'll tell you not

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that it's backed by any science. But the best I can figure is, it

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feels like the book was channeled through me. So feels

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like maybe getting this taken care of by whoever, whatever

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higher power, whatever you believe in. That said to me,

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here's a gift, because it was different than any other my

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writing now I wrote it, I sat there thinking of ideas. I

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remember the times writing it, like, all that stuff was me. But

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I feel like it was a gift that somebody kind of gave me a story

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that I could make complete quite easily.

Janice Porter: 00:05:41

Okay, so just for my audience to understand this

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book, The Enlightened passenger. To me, it's the same kind of

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feeling the kind of book, like it's a parable, right? It's

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like, it's like, I think of Bob Berg, the Go Giver, which was a

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parable I think of. There's I can't remember St. John's, John,

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I think he's got two last names. It was a book about network, the

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best network marketer in the world, there was a story, but I

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can't remember I've got it in like PDF version in an envelope

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somewhere. And I didn't find it in time to remember but same

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type of thing. And then Augmentee know who you reference

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in the book. So it's a, it's a story with lessons, right for

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life. And I'm guessing that and so let's go into this piece, I

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want to hear about this. But I'm guessing that all of these

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amazing thought leaders and thought leaders that you have

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met and interviewed over the years, the Bob Proctor's of the

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world, the Jack Canfield of the world, the Lisa Nichols of the

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world, those amazing people. And there's a list of suggested

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Celeste is reading list at the end of the book. And I'm sure

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that that's including all of those amazing people that you

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have interviewed, that must have brought the inspiration

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somewhere. I don't know, like, Tell me about that.

Corey Poirier: 00:07:16

Yeah, so I mean, when I mentioned like, I feel

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like, it's weird, because sometimes when we say channeled,

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channeled like, I'm a songwriter, as well. And when I

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was 12 years of age, I wrote my first song, I didn't know this

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sounds so weird to me. But there's a difference in chords

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and music, power chords, and like regular country or records.

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Regular country, or rock chords would be your regular chords,

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people know that ABC, whatever, is like those chords. Well, they

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also are played as a power chord when you play in rock music. So

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it's just a different way to play them to have them feel a

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different way and sound different. And I wrote the song

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when I was 12, where I use power chords, but yet I hadn't learned

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power chords yet. But they were all correct. Meaning like, How

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can I learn something I didn't know write a song, using this

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formation of chords that I still didn't know until a year later.

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And so that was channeled, truly channeled, I believe, like, the

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whole song came out, I was 12. And this song like we've had,

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it's been on the radio, like the song was, well, like it was well

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received. And yet, it was written in minutes by a guy who

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shouldn't have been able to write the songs. So I feel like

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that's one form of channel, this one here. I feel like it was

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almost like, we're giving you the inspiration, the story, but

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you still have to peek pieces together. So I just wanted to

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clarify. So the reason I bring that up is because obviously, if

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the entire book was channeled through me, then you wouldn't

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have the stories about Lisa Nichols or Les Brown, because

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those are my stories right? channel wouldn't put back in the

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book. And then at the same time, the characters which I didn't

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realize this until I was pretty much a year after writing

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because the finished of that, as it took about another year

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before it got to this stage. It's at now. And so what I

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realized quite a while after I wrote it is I'm the two

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characters. Well. Everybody else thought, Oh, really, I knew I

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was taken from pieces of my life and making it loosely based on

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my life. But I didn't clue in that I was fully both

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characters. I think what it was is Treb, who is the older

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character who's the guy that's been on the journey and all that

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I felt that was closer to him because I'd lived the journey.

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But I realized that I actually wrote the young, somewhat

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slightly arrogant guy and I wasn't arrogant, but I wasn't. I

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thought I knew it all. I didn't know about personal development.

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I didn't realize that base them on me. Now the interesting part

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of it that is his career is he basically sells devices like

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photo copiers and stuff for a living. And I sold photo copiers

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for a living for tenure. So like it should be all clear and

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obvious. Having said that, so the book obviously even if I

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said it was channeled through me, it could only be the story

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because the rest of it is all taking for my wife, Shelley. My

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wife is really Gina like it's literally loosely based on my

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life. And to answer your question, the part of me as I

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was writing it, and again, I know I was like, which came

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first the chicken or the egg? I don't know, if I said, You know

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what I should work in the stories from my life, or if I

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created the story, and then I was like, You know what would

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fit here? And I just pulled a story from my life. I'm not sure

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which I don't know how much was intentional. But to answer your

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kind of your question, the way the books written parts of my

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life, for instance, like I interviewed Les Brown in

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Atlanta, in his living room, and I asked him what synchronicity

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means to him. And he said, synchronicity is God's way of

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staying anonymous. Now, I think that was somebody else's quote,

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but hearing it from less makes it taste cold, you know, like,

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it's just the way he speaks is different. And so last said that

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to me, and in the book Treb, the older character talks. Yeah. And

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he talks about how he was backstage with less at an event,

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and asked less about synchronicity, and lesson

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synchronicity is God's way of staying anonymous. So what I'm

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getting at is almost everything in the book is a fictionalized

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version of what really happened.

Janice Porter: 00:10:59

Well, now that's really interesting, because I,

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when I was reading it thought that you and this is totally

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different to what you just said, I thought that you were

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included. Out of nowhere, okay. That's okay, stuff happens. I

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thought that this was your way of modernizing. And these

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lessons that we have heard before, right, because nothing's

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new. It's just, you know, it's a new audience or a new way of

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saying it. But you know, we're talking about what is

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synchronicity, we're talking about what is attitude of

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gratitude, or we're talking about saying no, all of these

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things, we hear them over time from different people, different

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thought leaders in their own way. And I thought this was put

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in on purpose to modernize it with these modern thought

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leaders.

Corey Poirier: 00:12:02

So here's the million dollar question, was it

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but on an unconscious level? or unconscious, they say is 95%.

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Right? What we do? So I'd say either way you say it, it was

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done that way. But I don't know who did it. It was very

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unconscious. Corey said again, I honestly am saying like, I don't

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remember, it may have been me intentionally saying, This is

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why I'm going to do this. But it feels like I was writing. And

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then I was like, Oh, this should go here. This should go here.

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But I will say it was intended for me to share the life lessons

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I've learned during those interviews. That part was

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intentional. It was intended that like, I've been 7500

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interviews with all these thought leaders, I wanted to

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share this, but share it in a way that I was maybe introducing

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this modern thought leader to the world, but through the eyes

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and lens of this character. Ultimately, I didn't really I

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don't think realize as I was doing it, how true to life I was

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bringing it, if that makes sense. So like when I do like,

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oh, you know, he should have met last year instead of lessons

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house. And I didn't realize, after I went with all them

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together, it was like, Oh, these are all stuff that actually

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happened like so. Lisa Nichols, I share in there that he in an

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interview with tribes, so tribe interviewed her, so that hurts

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me scared that we shouldn't feel from our cup when it's full,

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which is counter to what we always hear when she says we

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should build from our cup when it's overflowing into a saucer.

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And the thinking there is if you continually fell for your cup,

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when you're full, it means you're gonna do 100% And then

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you're giving away right away. So you're never staying at 100%.

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What she's saying is make sure you're full, and you're ready to

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share, and then share, which is just a unique approach to what

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we've always heard. And so I share that as if Lisa shared

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that with tribe in the story. Well, again, Lisa shared that

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with me, but I didn't put it at the same setting. I didn't put

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it the same time. Tribe is obviously meant to be a little

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older than me. Like there. There are some elements that have been

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changed. But I think what you're saying I think there is was an

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unconscious level to let's, let's share the same lessons I

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learned from thinking Grow Rich, in modern way now. But the one

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thing that is is factual I can say for sure is the 10 lessons

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that are ultimately shared are ones I learned directly from

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these thought leaders meaning Yes, thinking Grow Rich Napoleon

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Hill talks, some similar ones. But these are shared from how I

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learned them. So I, I learned it from Napoleon Hill, but then I

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went out and learn them on my own, but doing these interviews,

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and spending time with thought leaders, and so they are the 10

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things that I basically decided that's how I looked at it. These

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are the 10 things if you lock me in the room for 24 hours with my

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two young sons, and I can only 10 lessons before I died. These

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are the times ones I teach them. So like Les Brown or Les Brown,

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Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich doesn't put a word on

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synchronicity doesn't really even use the words meaningful

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coincidences, like he really doesn't talk about. He talks

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about intuition, but he doesn't go into what we know now or what

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we could find a synchronicity. He doesn't talk connote things

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that happen you'd like, Well, how could that happen? So the

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synchronicity park with me teaching is not something I took

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from thinking Grow Rich. In fact, what that's from is I

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worked with James Redfield, who wrote the self esteem prophecy

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on a project. And James really, at the end of the day, Carl

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Jung, they said, it's kind of like the one who coined

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synchronicity, but James I'll say is the one that made it

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famous, you know, he so 40 million books, synchronous

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became a thing because of, in a lot of ways, His teachings. And

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so I get to study at the feet of the person that kind of shared

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it with the world. So what I'm getting at is that these are not

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like a carbon copy of even thinking grow rich, but it's

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that same type of vein of let's share the stories from a modern

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lens. And let's also fictionalize it, so that it's a

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parable. So now it's a full complete story where I can

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actually have you learning without realizing you're

Corey Poirier: 00:15:47

learning,

Janice Porter: 00:15:48

ya know, that that's what makes it so easy to

Janice Porter: 00:15:51

read. And, and I think to share with others, I think it's the

Janice Porter: 00:15:56

kind of book you would you and you'll love this. It's the kind

Janice Porter: 00:15:59

of book you would buy for someone and give it to them.

Janice Porter: 00:16:01

Right? I think that it really is. I think about all of these

Janice Porter: 00:16:08

people that you have interviewed over the years, and I do I

Janice Porter: 00:16:14

probably asked you this before I don't know but cuz I didn't

Janice Porter: 00:16:17

finish listening to our last interview, to be honest, to to

Janice Porter: 00:16:21

ask to see if I did ask you this before because I like to be

Janice Porter: 00:16:24

fresh. Okay, but how did you position yourself for example,

Janice Porter: 00:16:32

like, how did you get to interview Lisa Nicole, how did

Janice Porter: 00:16:35

you get to you know, do that project with James forgot his

Janice Porter: 00:16:39

last name? Like, Celeste, celestial self esteem prophecy?

Corey Poirier: 00:16:45

What is it? Redfield?

Janice Porter: 00:16:48

Redfield? Yeah, I had that book, but I remember

Janice Porter: 00:16:50

trying to read it, and I found it difficult to read. So that

Janice Porter: 00:16:53

was a long time ago.

Corey Poirier: 00:16:54

Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'll say, This is my

Corey Poirier: 00:16:58

take on that. I think sometimes books, we're ready for them when

Corey Poirier: 00:17:00

we're ready. And sometimes we're not. And so for me, the book you

Corey Poirier: 00:17:03

just defined is the Power of Now, Eckhart Tolle

Janice Porter: 00:17:08

Vancouver. Speaking here, just next month,

Janice Porter: 00:17:12

I think, yeah, well, he lives here. Right. But

Corey Poirier: 00:17:16

yeah, so for his books, I have a hard time

Corey Poirier: 00:17:18

getting into them. I mean, I like his teachings, I believe in

Corey Poirier: 00:17:21

His message. I've watched his talks. And but so what you said

Corey Poirier: 00:17:25

about celsion? So what I would say is, excuse me, it might be

Corey Poirier: 00:17:28

worth trying, again, because it's all different times, I

Corey Poirier: 00:17:31

think, the Pulisic. To answer your question, though, there,

Corey Poirier: 00:17:35

it's interesting. You weren't, you were the word you use there

Corey Poirier: 00:17:37

for a minute was position. So how did you position yourself

Corey Poirier: 00:17:40

to. And it's fascinating to me, because a lot of it in the years

Corey Poirier: 00:17:45

recent has been positioning, a lot of that in the years, early

Corey Poirier: 00:17:49

on for how I started interviewing some big name

Corey Poirier: 00:17:51

thought leaders, was a mixture between strategy. And then the

Corey Poirier: 00:17:56

other side, though, it which is the part that's not sexy, and

Corey Poirier: 00:17:59

nobody wants to hear is investing and depositing into

Corey Poirier: 00:18:04

the relationship before ever asking for anything. And so I

Corey Poirier: 00:18:07

heard this great quote in the last two weeks, and I probably

Corey Poirier: 00:18:09

shared it 12 times since it's why some people would know this

Corey Poirier: 00:18:13

guy, some people wouldn't, but a guy named Alex or Mozi.

Janice Porter: 00:18:15

And he's, I've heard of them, but I don't know

Janice Porter: 00:18:18

about a sport. Okay,

Corey Poirier: 00:18:19

if you're having a really big name in the

Corey Poirier: 00:18:21

affiliate marketing space, world. So here's this quote,

Corey Poirier: 00:18:25

that he said, the longer you delay your ask, the bigger your

Corey Poirier: 00:18:29

ask can be. Oh, so in other words, if you stop the process,

Janice Porter: 00:18:36

because that, to me goes right to building

Janice Porter: 00:18:41

relationships.

Corey Poirier: 00:18:44

Agreed? No, that's, that's what I that's the

Corey Poirier: 00:18:47

intention, how I viewed it. And I think that's how he meant it.

Corey Poirier: 00:18:50

But I'm not sure because I heard it through a person who said,

Corey Poirier: 00:18:53

Alex just said this on his podcast. But for me, what it

Corey Poirier: 00:18:56

means is, if I meet, let's say, I'll give real world examples,

Corey Poirier: 00:19:00

but like when I met Mark Victor Hansen, so I met Mark, years

Corey Poirier: 00:19:04

ago, interviewed him, and then never conversed again for like

Corey Poirier: 00:19:08

two more years. And then I reached out, and he remembered

Corey Poirier: 00:19:12

that I interviewed him. And then we did another interview. And by

Corey Poirier: 00:19:16

the time we did the third or fourth interview, he said to me,

Corey Poirier: 00:19:20

said, you know, Corey, Preston on I was during COVID. We're

Corey Poirier: 00:19:23

launching, we just launched our book, this was on the air. He

Corey Poirier: 00:19:25

said, Do you know of other podcasters you could connect me

Corey Poirier: 00:19:28

with because we're just trying to get on as many shows as we

Corey Poirier: 00:19:29

can, but we're looking for bigger shows or whatever.

Corey Poirier: 00:19:32

Anyway, and so about within about a week, I introduced him

Corey Poirier: 00:19:35

to 25 top 1% podcasts, and then he I think he kind of went okay

Corey Poirier: 00:19:40

enough. Like we're flooded now. Okay. But my point of that is,

Corey Poirier: 00:19:44

is some people would say I'll do that and never act some people

Corey Poirier: 00:19:47

would say sure. I well in San Juan, I kind of went a little

Corey Poirier: 00:19:50

intense and but I mean, I was I was actually saying it's a good

Corey Poirier: 00:19:53

fit for them, but also the host I'm sending it to would love to

Corey Poirier: 00:19:56

have a guy who sold 600 million books on who's impacted how many

Corey Poirier: 00:19:59

lives. And so I got them on their shows. Then we were

Corey Poirier: 00:20:03

working on a documentary, I reached out and said, Hey, if

Corey Poirier: 00:20:05

some of your friends are in this, would you want to be in

Corey Poirier: 00:20:07

this? I'd actually this a great lesson right here about how to

Corey Poirier: 00:20:10

get thought leaders on your side. I didn't say some of your

Corey Poirier: 00:20:13

friends I said, I think you know, some of the people and at

Corey Poirier: 00:20:17

the time, they were really busy. And he said, right now we're not

Corey Poirier: 00:20:20

able to do anything. And it was I was asking about another

Corey Poirier: 00:20:23

interview. And I said, no worries, it was just like a

Corey Poirier: 00:20:25

random Hey, did you want to do this? But anyway, I said, Does

Corey Poirier: 00:20:27

that also go for the documentary? Like, I just want

Corey Poirier: 00:20:29

to make sure I'm not pestering? And he was, oh, no, no, we want

Corey Poirier: 00:20:32

to be in the project with our friends. And that's a key

Corey Poirier: 00:20:36

takeaway right there with our friends, which I'll tell you in

Corey Poirier: 00:20:38

a second how I use strategy around that. But to finish the

Corey Poirier: 00:20:41

story, so I did the documentary thing with Mark, then I brought

Corey Poirier: 00:20:45

him in to do an event and I paid him to do the event at this

Corey Poirier: 00:20:47

point, even though I said, Hey, do you want to be in the

Corey Poirier: 00:20:49

documentary? That's not really an ask. I'm saying, Hey, can I

Corey Poirier: 00:20:52

highlight you in a project that may go to netflix and be seen by

Corey Poirier: 00:20:55

millions of people? It's still a gift, not a gift, but you don't

Corey Poirier: 00:20:57

I mean, it's a gift. And so finally, I asked Mark, and

Corey Poirier: 00:21:02

there's a couple of things since then. But one of the things I

Corey Poirier: 00:21:05

asked recently was about this book. So I said, Mark, would you

Corey Poirier: 00:21:10

be willing to endorse the book? I didn't tell him this. This is

Corey Poirier: 00:21:12

kind of news now. But I was trying to decide between Mark

Corey Poirier: 00:21:16

and Richard Paul Evans around the forward, like who I wanted

Corey Poirier: 00:21:18

to approach on the foreword, Richard ended up writing the

Corey Poirier: 00:21:21

foreword, I think it was a good fit, because he talks about how

Corey Poirier: 00:21:24

he wanted to meet Augmon Dino when he was younger, and he sat

Corey Poirier: 00:21:26

across in a mall, but he wouldn't go approach him and,

Corey Poirier: 00:21:29

and then he said, you know, he finds this book reminds him of

Corey Poirier: 00:21:32

bog. And then if you remember, in the foreword, which I get

Corey Poirier: 00:21:35

goosebumps saying it now somebody has had 46, New York

Corey Poirier: 00:21:38

Times bestsellers. He said, I'm kind of jealous, because I wish

Corey Poirier: 00:21:41

I wrote this book. Yes, he did. So I think it was meant to be

Corey Poirier: 00:21:44

the way it's meant to be. And, interestingly, I went to his

Corey Poirier: 00:21:47

writers retreat. And he said that in front of everybody

Corey Poirier: 00:21:48

there, man, I wish I would have wrote this book. My wife, he

Corey Poirier: 00:21:52

said, If he doesn't write to you, let me know. And I'll buy

Corey Poirier: 00:21:55

the rights to finish writing it. Like if he doesn't finish it. So

Corey Poirier: 00:21:58

having said that, I was trying to decide between Mark and

Corey Poirier: 00:22:00

Richard. So then I went to mark a little bit later and said,

Corey Poirier: 00:22:04

Hey, would you be up for endorsing the book, no pressure.

Corey Poirier: 00:22:06

And he said, give me a call. So I can find out what the books

Corey Poirier: 00:22:08

about. And what I respect is he didn't just say, Sure, I'll put

Corey Poirier: 00:22:11

my name in a book that I have don't know anything about. So we

Corey Poirier: 00:22:13

got on a call. And instead of him reading it, it was like a

Corey Poirier: 00:22:15

goat. Now he's reading, but it was like me telling about the

Corey Poirier: 00:22:18

book. And he's a big fan of Augmon Dino too, because that

Corey Poirier: 00:22:20

sounds like my, that sounds like my good buddy. augis writing

Corey Poirier: 00:22:23

like that his book? And he said, Yeah, so he said, turn on the

Corey Poirier: 00:22:27

record on your phone and record this. And then he gave me a

Corey Poirier: 00:22:30

testimonial that way. What I'm saying about that, you'll notice

Corey Poirier: 00:22:33

Janice's that was the first interview I ever did with him as

Corey Poirier: 00:22:35

four years earlier. Yes. My first major ask was four years

Corey Poirier: 00:22:39

later, after six or seven interviews, after I introduced

Corey Poirier: 00:22:42

him at that point now, it's probably been 35 or 40 Big

Corey Poirier: 00:22:44

podcasts. And so that's the non sexy answer how you do this, it

Corey Poirier: 00:22:49

takes time you have to invest in it. The sexier strategic answer

Corey Poirier: 00:22:52

of what I did was my first big interview was Jack Canfield.

Corey Poirier: 00:22:56

Marks writing partner. And so I reached out, and Jack at the

Corey Poirier: 00:23:01

time wasn't doing interviews, they said, like, he's not

Corey Poirier: 00:23:04

promoting anything. He's, he's really busy with other stuff.

Corey Poirier: 00:23:06

They said, he's like, turning down nine out of every 10. So he

Corey Poirier: 00:23:09

said, Cory, it's just probably gonna be you know, just being

Corey Poirier: 00:23:11

realistic. And so, to me, it was a no for now, not a no. So what

Corey Poirier: 00:23:15

I did was, here's the strategy. I went to Jack's site, and I

Corey Poirier: 00:23:18

said, Who's endorsing Jack? Who else can I get to if I can't get

Corey Poirier: 00:23:22

to Jack's? And so I noticed this one name, Dan Sullivan, who runs

Corey Poirier: 00:23:26

a company called Strategic Coach in Toronto. My dad's not like is

Corey Poirier: 00:23:30

out there. Like he's not trying to be that there's Josh. And Dan

Corey Poirier: 00:23:33

had just done an interview in Success Magazine, which I

Corey Poirier: 00:23:35

listened to every month at the time on the audio, actually a CD

Corey Poirier: 00:23:38

for those that don't know what it is, but your car and listen

Corey Poirier: 00:23:41

to the audio. And Darren Hardy interviewed him and I had a

Corey Poirier: 00:23:43

similar interview style to Darren Hardy. So I went to Dan's

Corey Poirier: 00:23:46

team and said, Hey, Dan said this was his favorite interview.

Corey Poirier: 00:23:48

Here's a copy of my interview. I think he'd like our show. So

Corey Poirier: 00:23:51

they came back. So we agree, it sounds like a similar style.

Corey Poirier: 00:23:53

Let's get down on the show. They get to and on the show, which

Corey Poirier: 00:23:56

was really my first big get. But then what I did was on the

Corey Poirier: 00:23:59

interview, I kept bringing up Jack, the jack understand Jack's

Corey Poirier: 00:24:02

like goes to your coaching event. And you're like Jack's

Corey Poirier: 00:24:04

coach, basically, and, and all this stuff. And finally, in the

Corey Poirier: 00:24:06

interview, he said, you know, Cory, the more I think about

Corey Poirier: 00:24:08

this interview in this episode, I think Jack should come on your

Corey Poirier: 00:24:11

show. And you tell Dan said, so what I did Janice's like clip

Corey Poirier: 00:24:15

that Jack's team and they said, Cory, you beaten us into

Corey Poirier: 00:24:18

submission, Schedule link. So that's more of the strategy. So

Corey Poirier: 00:24:23

the sexy side, the non sexy side is you got to build a

Corey Poirier: 00:24:26

relationship, you got to invest, you got to figure out how can I

Corey Poirier: 00:24:28

give before taking the other side is sometimes you need to be

Corey Poirier: 00:24:32

strategic if you want to build relationships, so you can

Corey Poirier: 00:24:34

actually give to them first.

Janice Porter: 00:24:35

Yeah, those are both nuggets that are huge,

Janice Porter: 00:24:38

because I think a lot of people most people are impatient. And

Janice Porter: 00:24:44

that it's not because I always teach, give, give, give ask, you

Janice Porter: 00:24:48

know Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook, it's like, you know, you got to

Janice Porter: 00:24:51

give, give, give before you ask for something, but most people

Janice Porter: 00:24:55

it's like, they go right to the pitch and there they don't see

Janice Porter: 00:24:59

that That's, there's no nothing invested at that point. So I

Janice Porter: 00:25:03

totally agree with you. And it's a long that's the long game as

Janice Porter: 00:25:06

my, someone I interviewed on my podcast who I adore Dorie Clark.

Janice Porter: 00:25:10

I don't know if you know, yeah, she always said she wrote a book

Janice Porter: 00:25:13

called the long game. It's the long game. It really is. Right?

Janice Porter: 00:25:17

And, and the right way to do things, I think so it's not

Janice Porter: 00:25:22

sexy, but it is in a way, because it's really about

Janice Porter: 00:25:26

depositing in the bank account, so to speak, right. But in a in

Janice Porter: 00:25:30

an authentic way, in a real way. You You have to mean it. Right.

Janice Porter: 00:25:33

And, and I and be sincere about it. Absolutely.

Corey Poirier: 00:25:37

And I will say, we talked off the top about

Corey Poirier: 00:25:39

synchronicity in the book. And I will say if you believe in

Corey Poirier: 00:25:42

synchronicity, what's really fascinating is literally two

Corey Poirier: 00:25:47

days ago, the book was featured in Dorries newsletter. Oh, oh,

Corey Poirier: 00:25:51

my god, I love it. You know, synchronicity, the odds that you

Corey Poirier: 00:25:54

would bring up glory during this interview after, and literally I

Corey Poirier: 00:25:57

was just on a call with somebody who reached out to me, this is

Corey Poirier: 00:26:00

the power of branding and networking, positioning somebody

Corey Poirier: 00:26:03

that reached out to me to ask me, you know about the

Corey Poirier: 00:26:06

experience of being indoors newsletter, and then we got on a

Corey Poirier: 00:26:09

call. And then he asked, Well, what do you do and then at the

Corey Poirier: 00:26:11

end of it, so I might be interested in signing up for

Corey Poirier: 00:26:12

that. You just never know relationships gonna go right.

Corey Poirier: 00:26:15

And he's been following Dory for years. And they imagine event

Corey Poirier: 00:26:17

and stuff. And I've interviewed Dory in the past numerous times.

Corey Poirier: 00:26:20

But it's just like I said, it's, it's really a smaller world than

Corey Poirier: 00:26:23

you think it is, once you put the time in.

Janice Porter: 00:26:26

So let's go back to synchronicity then. Just from

Janice Porter: 00:26:30

that statement you just met. Sad it's really a smaller world than

Janice Porter: 00:26:33

you think it is. Because that I think that was that the first

Janice Porter: 00:26:37

chapter? No, Chapter Four is synchronicity but but

Janice Porter: 00:26:41

synchronicity? I don't know, is it? I've always struggled with,

Janice Porter: 00:26:47

like you talk in that chapter. I think if I remember correctly

Janice Porter: 00:26:51

about writing things down. Right, when things happen and

Janice Porter: 00:26:56

sort of seeing how things do play out? Yeah. I don't believe

Janice Porter: 00:27:04

there's any accidents. I believe that things happen for a reason.

Janice Porter: 00:27:07

But I'm not sure I can. That I have, what's the term that I

Janice Porter: 00:27:14

have? Massaged that thing of synchronicity to make it happen

Janice Porter: 00:27:23

more? Does that make sense?

Corey Poirier: 00:27:25

It does. And to answer your question. So here,

Corey Poirier: 00:27:28

I'm not sure anybody can see this, but this is my journal

Corey Poirier: 00:27:32

that I just started.

Janice Porter: 00:27:33

Okay. So of course, holding up his journal,

Janice Porter: 00:27:35

right? And the journal. Could

Corey Poirier: 00:27:37

you said, Did you say something about writing it

Corey Poirier: 00:27:39

down? And so yes, I believe. So James. And Salas, Dean said, If

Corey Poirier: 00:27:43

you without saying the words, because it was a parable as

Corey Poirier: 00:27:46

well, he just kind of implied that if you notice them and

Corey Poirier: 00:27:48

acknowledge them, you'll get more of them. So that had

Corey Poirier: 00:27:50

occurred to me, why don't I just physically write them down? Like

Corey Poirier: 00:27:53

that would really be acknowledging them? So I started

Corey Poirier: 00:27:55

writing them down and answer I guess the big question there is,

Corey Poirier: 00:27:59

I used to have them every blue moon. But either I didn't notice

Corey Poirier: 00:28:03

as often as are happening, or they weren't happening as often.

Corey Poirier: 00:28:05

That's the riddle. I mean, I some people will say get

Corey Poirier: 00:28:08

absolutely extra on that. And I really don't know how anybody

Corey Poirier: 00:28:11

can give an absolute answer, meaning it's like the car you

Corey Poirier: 00:28:14

buy? Do you see it more? Because you now notice it? Because you

Corey Poirier: 00:28:19

bought it? Or does the universe now put you on the road? At the

Corey Poirier: 00:28:23

same time as that car to see more than now? Because you now

Corey Poirier: 00:28:25

have the car in your consciousness? I don't know the

Corey Poirier: 00:28:27

answer. So same thing with synchronicity. I don't know if

Corey Poirier: 00:28:29

it's that I wrote them. So now I'm getting more of them.

Corey Poirier: 00:28:32

Because universe is Oh, you like these? I'll give you more. Or if

Corey Poirier: 00:28:36

they were already happening, as many as they were. And I just

Corey Poirier: 00:28:39

didn't notice them. I didn't know which is the real answer,

Corey Poirier: 00:28:41

and doesn't really matter. Because all I know is I get them

Corey Poirier: 00:28:43

a lot more frequently than I ever noticed before. So to

Corey Poirier: 00:28:46

answer when you said, I don't know how to necessarily maybe

Corey Poirier: 00:28:48

use that. Well, my answer would be write them down when they

Corey Poirier: 00:28:51

happen. I think you'll start getting blown away by how often

Corey Poirier: 00:28:53

they happen. And for me, sometimes they're

Corey Poirier: 00:28:56

synchronicities. And sometimes they're like close to

Corey Poirier: 00:28:59

synchronicity. But to give you an example, that literally just

Corey Poirier: 00:29:02

happened, because there's some that are like, one I had I was I

Corey Poirier: 00:29:06

was on a plane with a guy the other day, I'm looking at this

Corey Poirier: 00:29:08

right here. And he said, we got talking and I said that we're

Corey Poirier: 00:29:12

going to Vegas in May. I said next month, and this was in

Corey Poirier: 00:29:15

April. I said next month, and he said, Oh yeah, we are too. And

Corey Poirier: 00:29:18

then he got talking. He said, Yeah, we're going, actually in

Corey Poirier: 00:29:20

June and I said, Oh, yeah. And he goes, We're flying on June 8.

Corey Poirier: 00:29:23

Well, June 8 is my birthday. So I was like, that's interesting.

Corey Poirier: 00:29:26

And then Heidi, who works for us, sent me a message later that

Corey Poirier: 00:29:29

day, and I'd asked her earlier when she was flying back home to

Corey Poirier: 00:29:31

Canada. She goes, Oh, do neighs and then there's a local band

Corey Poirier: 00:29:35

called The Ellis brothers. And I the same day I was on Facebook

Corey Poirier: 00:29:39

and scrolling down and then said they were playing at the local

Corey Poirier: 00:29:42

thing on June 8. I don't like I look at that way says that just

Corey Poirier: 00:29:46

tells me I'm on the right path. Like I don't know what they

Corey Poirier: 00:29:48

really do that but the other one that happened that was really

Corey Poirier: 00:29:50

powerful. And I don't know if I have my red poker chip here, but

Corey Poirier: 00:29:54

I have a poker chip that says PMA on it, which stands for

Corey Poirier: 00:29:57

positive mental attitude, which came from a book called have

Corey Poirier: 00:30:00

success or a positive mental attitude by Napoleon Hill and W

Corey Poirier: 00:30:03

Clement Stone. They said everybody has an invisible

Corey Poirier: 00:30:05

talisman. They carry around with PMA on one side nma on the other

Corey Poirier: 00:30:08

side. So for me, I printed them up. But I said, Why would I put

Corey Poirier: 00:30:11

negative on one side, I just got to put PMA on both sides. And I

Corey Poirier: 00:30:14

just read ship that I usually carry around with me. And so we

Corey Poirier: 00:30:17

did this talk at the University of Miami. And there was a lady

Corey Poirier: 00:30:21

in the audience who was really intrigued by it. You could tell

Corey Poirier: 00:30:23

she had a lot of questions. Now, I never told her what it stood

Corey Poirier: 00:30:25

for. I just said I carry the chip and and talked about it. I

Corey Poirier: 00:30:28

didn't have one to show them. But I went to my bag because

Corey Poirier: 00:30:31

somebody asked me for a pen to write down on the evaluation

Corey Poirier: 00:30:34

forms. And I popped the poker chip. And then I saw her she was

Corey Poirier: 00:30:37

still standing there talking. So I went over kind of waited for a

Corey Poirier: 00:30:39

sec and showed her it. I remember the poker chip was

Corey Poirier: 00:30:42

talking about you seem so interested in this is it here.

Corey Poirier: 00:30:44

And then she tried to guess what PMA stood for for like 10

Corey Poirier: 00:30:46

minutes. And she was really close the whole time. But as we

Corey Poirier: 00:30:50

were both apart, I said, You know what, why don't you take

Corey Poirier: 00:30:52

it? I said, I got my make them. Like I got lots of them. And I

Corey Poirier: 00:30:55

said, I like giving them out like this, because you'll

Corey Poirier: 00:30:56

probably tell the story to somebody else. And it'll get

Corey Poirier: 00:30:59

them into a positive mental attitude. Maybe they'll print

Corey Poirier: 00:31:01

the chips. Anyway. She started crying after about five minutes,

Corey Poirier: 00:31:05

as we were still talking and I'm like, oh, what just happened

Corey Poirier: 00:31:07

here. And she told me that her boyfriend had died six months

Corey Poirier: 00:31:13

before of an overdose. And he was in the program AAA. And I

Corey Poirier: 00:31:18

guess in this part of Florida, they have colored poker chips,

Corey Poirier: 00:31:21

which I think they do with most aid things. But the one that for

Corey Poirier: 00:31:24

60 days is a red poker chip. And she said it only occurred to her

Corey Poirier: 00:31:28

because she's tries not to think about it. It only occurred to

Corey Poirier: 00:31:30

her. After a few minutes that he the last two poker chip you

Corey Poirier: 00:31:33

shoulder was a red poker chip. Oh my good now I have given her

Corey Poirier: 00:31:37

a red poker chip. For her What that meant is this is him

Corey Poirier: 00:31:40

telling me he's watching over me. Yes, of course. So that gets

Corey Poirier: 00:31:44

written in the book because what I'm trying to say that's a

Corey Poirier: 00:31:45

synchronicity to me. Yes, of

Janice Porter: 00:31:47

course. It's fantastic. I love it. Okay, I'm

Janice Porter: 00:31:49

gonna start writing them down. Please do so. So that story that

Janice Porter: 00:31:54

just happened between us around Dorie Clark, is that a

Janice Porter: 00:31:57

synchronicity for you? And me? Or just you?

Corey Poirier: 00:32:02

I mean, that's that's an interesting question.

Corey Poirier: 00:32:04

And this is where honestly, like, I struggled with, I was

Corey Poirier: 00:32:08

definitely and I say it often, I was a spiritual skeptic for most

Corey Poirier: 00:32:11

of my life. And I still am to a large degree. So like I struggle

Corey Poirier: 00:32:16

with like astral projection. And the idea that I could be above

Corey Poirier: 00:32:19

my body looking down like, I'm just not there yet. And and I

Corey Poirier: 00:32:22

don't know if I will get there, or if I will, or ascending the

Corey Poirier: 00:32:24

idea of ascending. I'm still not there yet. So, so for me, I

Corey Poirier: 00:32:29

struggle when people give you an absolute answer to something

Corey Poirier: 00:32:32

like that, because I believe ultimately, it's our

Corey Poirier: 00:32:33

speculation. Like, I believe it's like, this is what I

Corey Poirier: 00:32:36

believe. Fine. People say this is what that means. Yeah, that's

Corey Poirier: 00:32:41

a good yeah. Like, how, how did you become the person that knows

Corey Poirier: 00:32:44

that when the only way we could know that is to be on the other

Corey Poirier: 00:32:46

side if, if we believe in the other side? Somebody recently

Corey Poirier: 00:32:50

his name is Vinny, and I'm gonna see him next week at the writers

Corey Poirier: 00:32:53

retreat in Utah. And Vinnie died for 72 hours is that Vinnie, the

Corey Poirier: 00:32:58

podcast guy, he has a podcast I'm trying to think of his last

Corey Poirier: 00:33:02

name, but he has a book about

Janice Porter: 00:33:05

so then he has a tea no or no. Okay. No,

Corey Poirier: 00:33:09

no, no, I know who you mean. No, this year as

Corey Poirier: 00:33:11

well. If the guy I'm thinking about you're talking about he's

Corey Poirier: 00:33:13

a speaker gray hair.

Janice Porter: 00:33:16

Used to be MTV guy. Okay,

Corey Poirier: 00:33:19

no, totally different people. I think

Janice Porter: 00:33:20

there's a good podcast is the name of his

Janice Porter: 00:33:22

podcast,

Corey Poirier: 00:33:23

I think. Got him. I think this guy does have a

Corey Poirier: 00:33:25

podcast, but I'm trying to remember the name his book. I

Corey Poirier: 00:33:27

haven't here somewhere. But basically Oh, there it is. I

Corey Poirier: 00:33:30

think oh,

Janice Porter: 00:33:31

wait, it's not Vincent. It's not this book.

Janice Porter: 00:33:36

Nope. That was scare me if it was that book. No, I

Corey Poirier: 00:33:39

know him through. It's this guy. Life after Death.

Corey Poirier: 00:33:45

Coleman. I mean, they call them Vinnie, Vinnie Vegas, because he

Corey Poirier: 00:33:48

lives in Vegas. Yeah, but he died. It says he said that. It

Corey Poirier: 00:33:53

says here. This is this is the front of it. At age 25. Vincent

Corey Poirier: 00:33:57

Tolman was pronounced that and put in a body bag. Nearly an

Corey Poirier: 00:33:59

hour later, he miraculously came back to life. This is his story.

Corey Poirier: 00:34:03

But what he told me is that, technically, he was dead a lot

Corey Poirier: 00:34:08

longer than that, because they didn't find him for a day and a

Corey Poirier: 00:34:10

half, like, a few days or something. So the reason I bring

Corey Poirier: 00:34:14

this up, only the main reason I bring this up is now if Vincent

Corey Poirier: 00:34:18

tells me this is what's on the other side. I can, I can

Corey Poirier: 00:34:22

understand why he believes that firmly. Because there's not many

Corey Poirier: 00:34:26

people that have died for that long to tell you that. So this

Corey Poirier: 00:34:30

is what I saw on the other side, then, okay, I'm gonna have to

Corey Poirier: 00:34:32

buy into course yeah, what I'm saying is most people say this

Corey Poirier: 00:34:35

is this is what's true. And so that was a long answer to your

Corey Poirier: 00:34:39

question. Was a synchronicity for me or for you? I think,

Corey Poirier: 00:34:43

personally, it's probably what each of us assigns to it. In

Corey Poirier: 00:34:47

other words, if I think it's for both of us, and it's for both of

Corey Poirier: 00:34:50

us to me, if you think it's for you, then it's for you. But what

Corey Poirier: 00:34:53

do I take from it? Again, it gets hard to get and there's a

Corey Poirier: 00:34:57

lot of people that will say this one it means just like dreams,

Corey Poirier: 00:34:59

right? if that's what your dream means, but whoever was that, who

Corey Poirier: 00:35:02

became the authority on that, like, Where was that proven that

Corey Poirier: 00:35:05

if your dream is that means this. So the same thing with

Corey Poirier: 00:35:07

this is that I think for me, what it means is you and I are

Corey Poirier: 00:35:10

in the right place at the right time doing this interview. Me,

Corey Poirier: 00:35:13

it's just a validation, you're on the right track. But somebody

Corey Poirier: 00:35:17

else could certainly assign a bigger meaning. Like, for

Corey Poirier: 00:35:19

example, both of us are so semester's tour Dory, right

Corey Poirier: 00:35:22

after this, and say, Hey, don't worry, we're just talking about

Corey Poirier: 00:35:24

you. Because we have a message for you. Like it's an in the

Corey Poirier: 00:35:27

book I talked about, oh, James says, if you see somebody

Corey Poirier: 00:35:29

multiple times, then they probably have a message for you.

Corey Poirier: 00:35:33

For me, I think it's ultimately what we believe that's what we

Corey Poirier: 00:35:36

should go with. So. So another weird example, around intuition

Corey Poirier: 00:35:40

for me if we were going on a trip one time, and I was going

Corey Poirier: 00:35:43

to be getting the book on my red carpet, in Nashville with my

Corey Poirier: 00:35:47

publisher. And it was right around May 2020. And we were

Corey Poirier: 00:35:51

driving to the airport. And my wife was pregnant, and we asked

Corey Poirier: 00:35:55

her doctor, is it safe to go COVID is just starting. And she

Corey Poirier: 00:35:58

said, there's only one case and all the tendency you should be

Corey Poirier: 00:36:00

fine. We had the sniffles and cold. So it wouldn't have

Corey Poirier: 00:36:02

probably been good anyway, because we would have went there

Corey Poirier: 00:36:04

as the people that they thought had COVID Even though we didn't,

Corey Poirier: 00:36:07

but we I got a text and said your flights delayed. And so my

Corey Poirier: 00:36:11

The reason I bring this up is because some people would say,

Corey Poirier: 00:36:14

well, everything's meant to be canceled, the flights delayed.

Corey Poirier: 00:36:16

But if I went with that, Janice, every flight I'm on is delayed,

Corey Poirier: 00:36:20

I would never go anywhere. So me I see think I need a bigger sign

Corey Poirier: 00:36:24

than just your flights delayed. So I got a second text on the

Corey Poirier: 00:36:28

way to the airport saying your flights delayed. And I the first

Corey Poirier: 00:36:31

one I said is that the universe testing us or telling us the

Corey Poirier: 00:36:34

second one, I said Who universe is really testing me. And then

Corey Poirier: 00:36:37

we were about 10 months away from the airport. Third your

Corey Poirier: 00:36:38

flights late, I said, the universe just told us not to go

Corey Poirier: 00:36:41

on this trip. My point is I need the universe to drill it into my

Corey Poirier: 00:36:44

head, not just say your flights laid once. And then we got to

Corey Poirier: 00:36:47

the counter and the lady. We said like we only had an hour

Corey Poirier: 00:36:49

and a half to go through customs with a pregnant wife. And start

Corey Poirier: 00:36:53

with she said all I can tell you I can't say much. But I'm

Corey Poirier: 00:36:55

looking at the screen and you won't make your next flight. So

Corey Poirier: 00:36:58

we wouldn't have made it we were only going for four days. We

Corey Poirier: 00:37:01

already were sneezing and coughing, like everything about

Corey Poirier: 00:37:03

it said don't go on this trip. What I'm saying though, is I

Corey Poirier: 00:37:06

need more than assign than just a Texas as your flights delayed.

Corey Poirier: 00:37:09

But some people that would be enough if they only travel once

Corey Poirier: 00:37:12

here, they say, Oh, this trip is off? something's gonna happen

Corey Poirier: 00:37:14

with the plane? Well, what I'm saying is, I think it's whatever

Corey Poirier: 00:37:17

you assign to it, if that works for them. Great. But for me, I

Corey Poirier: 00:37:19

need more of a sign. I need the universe to beat me over the

Corey Poirier: 00:37:21

head a little bit before I get

Janice Porter: 00:37:23

Oh, fantastic stuff. So let's just wrap up

Janice Porter: 00:37:28

with some some information from my listeners about your book,

Janice Porter: 00:37:35

because it's not well, it might be close when this airs, because

Janice Porter: 00:37:39

it's the end of May now it'll probably be about a month, your

Janice Porter: 00:37:43

book is going is in pre order. Yes. Tell us about where they

Janice Porter: 00:37:47

can get it and so on. Yeah,

Corey Poirier: 00:37:49

so it is in preorder, meaning people can

Corey Poirier: 00:37:51

order it right now. If you get it right now, the thing I'll say

Corey Poirier: 00:37:55

is, depending on your listing, but if you're listening while

Corey Poirier: 00:37:58

the bonus is still exists, my my suggestion would be get it now,

Corey Poirier: 00:38:02

because it comes with bonuses that will eventually disappear.

Corey Poirier: 00:38:05

And there's five instant bonuses that come with the book, when

Corey Poirier: 00:38:08

you buy it. Those are like immediately you get them on your

Corey Poirier: 00:38:11

email. And then on top of that, there's, you know, we shared

Corey Poirier: 00:38:15

this, you heard me say this, I think, offline, I'm gonna share

Corey Poirier: 00:38:18

this with you, but we have some other live events coming up. And

Corey Poirier: 00:38:21

they're virtual events. And if you buy the book before, I'll

Corey Poirier: 00:38:25

say if you are on the list after buying the book before these

Corey Poirier: 00:38:28

events, you get to attend events all for free. And we have an

Corey Poirier: 00:38:31

event coming up with Ken Honda and Janet Attwood live event you

Corey Poirier: 00:38:35

can attend. Richard Paul Evans and Mark Victor Hansen and

Corey Poirier: 00:38:38

Crystal Hansen. We have one cup that's kind of fascinating to

Corey Poirier: 00:38:41

me. We have one coming up with Brian Austin Green from anger

Corey Poirier: 00:38:44

management 92 Randy spelling Fernando and Sharna Burgas,

Corey Poirier: 00:38:48

which is Dancing with the Stars. She's married to find dream.

Corey Poirier: 00:38:51

Yeah. So it's gonna be like 902101. So we have all these

Corey Poirier: 00:38:55

complex? Shawna? Shawna, right, sure. And and then we have a

Corey Poirier: 00:39:03

live virtual bootcamp we do usually once or twice a year and

Corey Poirier: 00:39:06

it's coming up. And basically by getting the book you're in for

Corey Poirier: 00:39:10

all any of those that are still to happen after you get the book

Corey Poirier: 00:39:12

and you get the five instant bonuses. So to me, it makes

Corey Poirier: 00:39:16

sense if you can get all those things. So a $16.95 cent book.

Corey Poirier: 00:39:20

So the answer the question how they will get it is and if you

Corey Poirier: 00:39:24

can probably include a link in the show notes. Yes, of course.

Corey Poirier: 00:39:27

If they go to the main link for the book, then when they get it,

Corey Poirier: 00:39:32

they get it they're extending themselves to the retailer site

Corey Poirier: 00:39:35

so they still pay the same price they still get at the same

Corey Poirier: 00:39:37

place. But when you get it through our site, you come back

Corey Poirier: 00:39:40

put the order number in and then you get in for all that stuff. I

Corey Poirier: 00:39:42

said okay God, Barnes and Noble or Amazon on your own we can't

Corey Poirier: 00:39:46

send you those gifts because we don't even know your bottoms.

Corey Poirier: 00:39:48

They don't share it with us. So

Janice Porter: 00:39:49

that tells me the link again is

Corey Poirier: 00:39:52

Sonos. Yeah, it's this is the book.com. So this

Corey Poirier: 00:40:00

He's a bit.com

Janice Porter: 00:40:02

perfect because I'm looking on Amazon now and

Janice Porter: 00:40:04

I'm sitting thinking, I don't see any bonuses or anything. So

Janice Porter: 00:40:07

yes. Okay, that will be in there, this is the book.com. And

Janice Porter: 00:40:10

that will allow you to go buy it, bring you the, the receipt

Janice Porter: 00:40:14

to proof of purchase, and then you're eligible for all those

Janice Porter: 00:40:17

things. That's fantastic. I'm very excited for you. I think

Janice Porter: 00:40:20

this is going to be huge. I think it's, I so enjoyed this

Janice Porter: 00:40:25

reading it and it's a quick read, it's a great book to share

Janice Porter: 00:40:29

with others, especially like you said, the things that you would

Janice Porter: 00:40:33

teach your your children, you know, it's kind of like get the

Janice Porter: 00:40:36

young people who are just coming up to start thinking about these

Janice Porter: 00:40:40

things and think this way, because you know, it I wish I'd

Janice Porter: 00:40:44

known some of these things earlier than I did, you know,

Janice Porter: 00:40:47

start to explore the, the the ideas of intuition and

Janice Porter: 00:40:52

synchronicity and all of those good things. So. So thank you,

Janice Porter: 00:40:57

thank you for being here. And I appreciate your time and my

Janice Porter: 00:41:01

audience. I really encourage you to check this out. Check Corys

Janice Porter: 00:41:06

work out and do get involved with with what he does, because

Janice Porter: 00:41:11

I think it's really I think he's onto something big here bigger

Janice Porter: 00:41:14

than before. So congratulations. Thank you for being here. Again

Janice Porter: 00:41:19

to my audience. Thank you and remember to stay connected and

Janice Porter: 00:41:22

be remembered