Why Midlife Is the Perfect Time to Pivot with Beverley Glazer | RR312

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Ben, hello, hello, and welcome to this

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week's episode of relationships rule the show that explores the

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power of authentic connection in building a life and a business

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that you love. Today, we're joined by Beverly Glazer, a

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seasoned therapist, a transformational coach and

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founder of reinvent impossible, backed by over 35 years of real

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world results, Beverly helps high performing people to

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navigate transitions in both life and business by taking

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clear, strategic mind shifting actions through a unique blend

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of emotional intelligence and strategic life design. Beverly

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brings deep, emotional mastery and sharp, actionable insight to

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help you quickly navigate personal and professional

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challenges and step into your next big chapter with clarity,

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confidence and ease. She is the host of the acclaimed podcast,

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aging with purpose and passion, and her website, reinvent

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impossible, has a lot of interesting information that I

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urge you to check out after the show. So welcome. Welcome to the

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show.

Beverley Glazer: 00:01:11

Thank you for inviting me. Thanks so much.

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Well, a fellow

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Canadian, how can I not? I mean, it was kind of

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cool. I think we met on LinkedIn, if I'm not mistaken, I

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think so. Janice, yes, yes, you're on the

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warmer side.

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Yeah, Canada, yes, yeah. You come from

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Montreal. You're in Montreal, which is Montreal. Yeah,

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beautiful city. So I want to know, I know that you, you were

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a traditional therapist for many years, psychotherapist for many

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years. And I know that coaching became a thing, because I

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remember, in my transition from corporate to working on my own,

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coaching was just coming into I'm showing my age now, but some

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coaching was just coming to existence, and I started to look

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at it for me, as a possible path, because I'd been a

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teacher, not because I'd been a therapist, but because I'd been

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a teacher. And of course, I discovered at that time it was

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so expensive to take the coaching credentials that it

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scared me off completely. And I also started to realize that

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teaching and coaching are completely different things,

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which, yes, you're nodding your head, and I know that you know

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that so but for you, what sparked, what was that moment

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that sparked that interest for you into the world of

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transformation coaching?

Beverley Glazer: 00:02:38

Oh, that's a wonderful question, okay, it

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really is, because, as a professional, and as, you know,

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as a teacher, you work really hard to get your credentials.

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And then I saw all these people going out as coaches, and I'm

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saying, My goodness, you know, I don't want to do that. It's

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like, this is terrible, you know? And, yeah, that's my

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immediate reaction, I have to say. And then I just continued.

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I was on my path helping people all the time. This is what I do.

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This is what I know. And as COVID hit, I started to realize,

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I mean, we I started to understand coaching more. I

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started to see that coaching is in many different areas. And

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what I did is I got my IFC certification because, like

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everything else, I want to do it the right way, yeah, and learn

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the right way. And I took a look at that, not, yes, I'm able to

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do it, and I understand that there are business coaches and

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all kinds of coaches, right? Sports go, and I had a lot of

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clients that travel, and I realized that what I do is not

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only therapy, everybody needs help at one time or another, but

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not everybody needs therapy. And at the time of the pandemic,

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when things were changing, it gave me time to think, because I

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had a very busy private practice, I had a radio show. I

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was, you know, everywhere you'd have no time to think, right?

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And people were calling me and I'm working and I'm saying, wow,

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you know, because I love doing what I'm doing, and I love

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helping people. So what happened is I had that pause, and people

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were still seeing me online, and I continued with that, and

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because I had that radio show and was speaking, really to the

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world, and when you speak to the world, you start to you know

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you're only talking at a studio, not realizing you're speaking to

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the world. You're talking to the newsman. You. And the production

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person, but when you're speaking out there, right, the voices,

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the people that you reach are so many, and you can make much more

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of an impact. And I realized that if I reach out online, I

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can help so many more people. And that's where I started to

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see that some people, of course, call me a coach, some people

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call me a therapist, depending on where they're coming from,

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I'm really a strategic advisor. Janice, and that's what I do.

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And today I've pivoted more and more into strategy for business,

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because it's not only business, it's strategy for business, and

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it's also strategy for life. And when people come the problems

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that they often come for are not what they're actually even

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working on, because there's so much depth to that. And people

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know strategy. They're given the tools. They know what to do. But

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what happens is you really need the combination of the skills of

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people, tools, working with other people, problems with

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teams, problems that's going on on the back end, and they don't

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realize that it's about communication. It's it's really

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about giving clarity, and you can get so much more revenue

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with that if the communication to with boards, communication

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with teams and customers, and you know, it's all about that,

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and also how to extend your energy, because we only have so

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many hours in a day. And like I was saying, a lot of my clients

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travel. I work with many C suite people, many people that are

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stressed beyond belief, and here they are having to come home and

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take out the garbage. You know, they're dealing with the

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personal problems, and they don't have time for that and

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what, and you'll have it. You know, with men, with women, it's

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be able to bring this balance into your life, to be able to

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make your business fun, not just stress, because when it's

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combined with life and business, you're flying, you know you're

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flying. And so this is what I love to do, and this is what I

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do today.

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So I just went black blank on your podcast

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name, which is

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my podcast name, aging with purpose and

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passion, right? Aging

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with purpose and passion, which I love, I love

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that that name, and I think that you have said and correct me if

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I'm wrong, but that midlife is a time of awakening. What do you

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mean by that? That's exciting. That's exciting, actually, I

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find. But what do you mean by that?

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Well, I find, and I'm past midlife, that there

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are many awakenings, but at midlife, it's like, oh my

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goodness, I'm old, not old. I have so much life ahead. When

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you're in corporate though, you can start to feel old ageism is

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real. And when you look at the marketing for women, and I'm

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talking about 50, and this is why I really focus on that

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demographics, it's it's like my children are leaving. It looks

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like my appearance seems to be changing a lot. I'm starting to

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look like my mother, and that's personal, but you're starting to

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see that there's more and yet, what next very often, and is

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there a next? And sometimes you take a look and Mr. Wonderful

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has changed, or he's not that wonderful. Or do I have like,

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I've heard this so many times. What's next? What do I do? And

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it's really about sorting things out, and it's getting that aha

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moment that you have to be comfortable with yourself no

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matter where you are and what you do. And I also have found

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that that was the time where you're thinking perhaps of

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retiring, and may not want to retire, and that is your life,

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because your business is your life, you know. And you say, all

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my friends are the ones in the office, because I really have

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very few friends on the outside. So it's about building and

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developing, and it's around 5055, where we get that. So yes,

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that's a real awakening,

Janice Porter: 00:09:52

yeah, and I think, I think it that comes in

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different ways, and in that different times for people, I

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remember it. Is what's going on in your life? Because I remember

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having a huge awakening when I came out of my first marriage,

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and that was, you know, I was only I was very young when I got

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married, I had my first child, and then my picket fence fell

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down. Is what I what I taught, said to myself, but a lot of

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things happened for me then that that were a huge awakening.

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Like, I didn't want to be by myself. I couldn't handle being

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by myself. I was on the phone every night talking to my

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girlfriends because I couldn't be alone. And so you have to

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learn, you know, to to to love yourself and to accept that

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that's a good thing sometimes, like be alone, not lonely, and

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things like that. So that, for me, was one big awakening. I

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also remember I look at my one of my daughters, who's in that

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50 So there I've given my myself away, but she is now at the

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threshold or the pinnacle of her career. She's in a big

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leadership role, and she's having to learn her way into

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that. But, you know, there were things in her life that didn't

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happen that she wanted, so that's now a focus. But is it an

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awakening or what I don't know, there's so many different things

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that come into play, so I want to just shift that, not shift

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it, but move it a little bit and ask, what role do you think

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relationships play in helping or hindering someone's ability to

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reinvent themselves or to grow into that new per, You know,

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transformation?

Beverley Glazer: 00:11:39

That's really another wonderful question,

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because we were just talking about this on my podcast

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yesterday, which is, what role okay? Is that a reawakening?

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Right? What? What goes on with relationships? You may have that

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aha moment, but your husband and wife maybe not. And so you have

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to have support. You have to have somebody that says, I have

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your back, and I can tell you honestly, in my case, it's my

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husband, and anything I do, he supports and I think that's a

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wonderful thing, because if you decide to pivot, and I have

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clients right now where she's continuing running her business,

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she's a founder, and we're working on, you know, this

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feeling of sabotaging herself because she doesn't feel that

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She's really good enough to stand on stages and do all these

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things, and her husband has just retired, and so how do you shift

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that when, as she said, these are his words, he's happy

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watching grass grow, and she's on the next plane, you know,

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yeah. So what happens is, he gives her 100% support. That's

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great. That's great. And so we have to understand each other,

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because that's when things dissolve. And I also have to say

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that that's something that each individual has to sort

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themselves out to because no one should feel that they're a

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victim, and no one should have to feel that they're strapped

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and stuck. Everyone should find their purpose, and everyone has

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to feel that they matter, and otherwise there's no purpose

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getting up in the morning, you know, and so we can't sacrifice

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ourselves for someone else, but it's really a good thing to be

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able to have someone in the first place to be on board and

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say, you Know, whatever you do,

Janice Porter: 00:14:00

yeah, that's so important. I find that a lot of

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my friends, either retired or or never really worked. They out of

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the home and and now I could, you know, I I work more than I

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don't work, but I love what I do. So why wouldn't I, you know?

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Because if I'm not doing what I'm doing, I'm out spending

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money, or I'm bored. So I don't know. I just find it's really

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interesting. So I think retirement today is a very

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different thing for for every everybody. So you work a lot

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with high performing women. What patterns or challenges do you

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see most often at that sort of midlife stage?

Beverley Glazer: 00:14:51

The challenges at midlife, and not only at

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midlife, I think it's for every woman that's working. Okay, fair

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enough. It is, you know, it's, it's really. Me, should I really

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be doing this? And I'm talking even personally for myself,

Janice Porter: 00:15:05

because same as what I just said, right, should

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I be doing this

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exactly? You're always every single day, the

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older you are, you're hit with that as younger people come up.

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And we have to understand that we have value, and remember

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that, and that no matter how old you are, we've been through all

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these different twists and turns in the road, and they matter,

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and they've taught us something. And so what a big problem is to

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start looking on social media, where you see that you're never

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good enough, right? And and you start comparing with who you are

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and what you should be, etc, etc. And so that would be one of

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the biggest problems with women in the workforce. It's like, you

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know, why am I doing this? And sometimes it's perfectly natural

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to say, I don't want to be doing this, but always go back to your

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why. And this is something that I always suggest, and I do it

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myself, you know. And on those days where I say, Ah, why am I

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doing this? I'm really thinking of my why, and immediately I

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don't want to do anything else. I really do. It's just one of

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those days or one of those minutes, because when you're

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working, it's not all fun and games. It's work. And there's

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things that I love to do, like working with my clients, and

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there's other things that maybe not so much, like all that admin

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stuff that you write people, you know. So yes, yes, we have to go

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back to the why. Why are we doing this in the first place?

Janice Porter: 00:17:01

Yeah, that's so true. And you have a statement

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on your on your website that I love you are never too old, and

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it is never too late to reinvent yourself with passion. And I

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love that because I agree. I think that when you find

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something that gives you joy and that you're really, really

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passionate about, it isn't work. You know that part is not work.

Janice Porter: 00:17:23

The thing that that keeps coming in my head, that I remember

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experiencing one time, and I think that work, whatever that

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looks like for you, for me, helps me with and that is that I

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was once told, and I'll never forget this, because it was at a

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at a week long personal development thing in the in the

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in Northern California, up at a ranch, and we were doing this

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exercise in a big gymnasium, and the one of the big wigs of the

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company was doing the exercise with us, and she came up to me

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and told me that I was invisible. Oh yeah, whoa, it was

Janice Porter: 00:18:03

a women's thing, as I recall, and and I'm like, that stuck

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with me for so long, because I was always the person that spoke

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up first. I was always the person that, you know, answered

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the questions or led the group or whatever. And somehow I lost

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that. If that's what she said to me that I was invisible, but I

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don't think I ever got over it, to be honest. Maybe I still

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think therapy about it. I don't know. But you know, you don't,

Janice Porter: 00:18:32

and that's what work gives me. I don't feel invisible when I'm

Janice Porter: 00:18:35

helping others, right?

Beverley Glazer: 00:18:36

No, and you're not invisible. You have a

Beverley Glazer: 00:18:38

podcast and everything I know. Quite frankly, I think she was

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wrong to say that,

Janice Porter: 00:18:44

of course she was, of course she was, you

Janice Porter: 00:18:46

know, it's damaging even at midlife, right? It's

Beverley Glazer: 00:18:50

damaging at any time, exactly, however I have

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heard, and these are from friends of mine, and I've never

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experienced it, but this particular friend was saying,

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you know, I hate that when I go out with younger people, I feel

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invisible. And I said, You know what? And her name's Anna, if

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she's listening. I said, I have never felt that right. And if I

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felt I was invisible, I would make myself known. And I said,

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Where was that? So she said, Well, it was in a restaurant.

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And so I just felt that, you know, they just looked at me as

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if I was not that important. And I didn't only hear this now from

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her, Janice, I've heard this from other people that the older

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we are, you know, the more invisible we become. And what

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does happen is when we go and when we're sick, and it often

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happens in the workplace too, and we're not sick, but we are

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that person that's the older one and not excited. Expected to be

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able to know the technology and not be expected to be able to

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keep up or want to learn, or is expected that you're going to be

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leaving and retiring, and maybe now we won't invest in you,

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because it's a bad investment, and we'll invest in the younger

Beverley Glazer: 00:20:18

people. And so that is where you start to shrink and feel

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invisible.

Janice Porter: 00:20:25

But it's internal, right? It's actually,

Beverley Glazer: 00:20:28

it's there. It's a real, really there, you

Beverley Glazer: 00:20:30

know? But, but the way to do it for, in other words, if you're

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passed over, and you know that that's an ageist thing, it's

Beverley Glazer: 00:20:37

there. It's real, true and, I've heard stories Janice, of this

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woman. I mean, she turned 60. It was her birthday that she was

Beverley Glazer: 00:20:48

member of the team, top of the team, leading many teams. And on

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her birthday, they just were celebrating her birthday, and

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the next day, they were telling her, Well, it's time we're

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downsizing, etc, etc. Okay, yes, all right. And so if this speaks

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to anyone in the audience, that is that aha moment that you have

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to start seeing, I am not valued here, but I can be valued

Beverley Glazer: 00:21:20

elsewhere, and that is the time a coach is necessary. That is

Beverley Glazer: 00:21:25

the time where you're able to really put it all together, see

Beverley Glazer: 00:21:30

what you want, where do you want to go? That is your gift to

Beverley Glazer: 00:21:35

self, believe me, because if you're not appreciated here,

Beverley Glazer: 00:21:41

I've known of women who've pivoted completely, like I have

Beverley Glazer: 00:21:46

pivoted, but semi because I'm still helping people in

Beverley Glazer: 00:21:49

different ways. But what happens is they go out and form other

Beverley Glazer: 00:21:56

businesses that they never thought that they had the

Beverley Glazer: 00:21:59

capability of doing because they were strapped. I have in one of

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:06

my podcasts, this woman, if you, if you've been listening, what

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:10

she, what she did is she was going to be just literally

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:15

another company was buying out that company. And what she

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:18

wanted to do was say, am I going to be continuing. Is very

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:22

successful my department, but should I continue? I always

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:25

wanted to be in the film industry, and goodness knows,

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:30

what she did is she stepped down. And what she did was she

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:35

studied everything she could about film, and she said, You

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:39

know, I'm going to do a film on women over 50, which was her, in

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:44

her case, over 60. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:49

start interviewing a film she realizes like a business, it's a

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:54

production company. I know how to run companies, and she

Beverley Glazer: 00:22:58

completely reinvented herself and has awards as a filmmaker.

Beverley Glazer: 00:23:03

So if I'm talking to anyone here, you don't know the depth

Beverley Glazer: 00:23:07

of how much you have, and the older you have are, the more

Beverley Glazer: 00:23:12

depth you have.

Janice Porter: 00:23:13

That's fantastic. I was going to ask you this last

Janice Porter: 00:23:15

question, and you've pretty much answered it. And basically of

Janice Porter: 00:23:19

women or our our listeners navigating their own transition.

Janice Porter: 00:23:23

What piece of advice would you offer for them to move forward

Janice Porter: 00:23:26

with confidence? And you've kind of answered that question, which

Janice Porter: 00:23:29

I love in many ways, and and it's actually quite exciting. I

Janice Porter: 00:23:34

it's funny. I, as you know, from before we came on air, that I've

Janice Porter: 00:23:39

just had a little bit of a medical experience, and it was

Janice Porter: 00:23:42

in the hospital. And so the other day, one of my close

Janice Porter: 00:23:46

friends came over to visit, and, you know, brought goodies, and

Janice Porter: 00:23:49

we sat down and and visited. And she had said to me a few weeks

Janice Porter: 00:23:55

ago, Janice, I know that she she calls me her tech guru, and I'm

Janice Porter: 00:23:59

not a tech guru by any means. But, of course, you know more

Janice Porter: 00:24:03

than someone else, and to them you are. And she wanted me to

Janice Porter: 00:24:06

show her how to use chat GPT, and so she brought her little

Janice Porter: 00:24:11

iPad with her. And she's, she does. She's retired, a retired

Janice Porter: 00:24:15

banker for several years now. And you know, she's a grandma,

Janice Porter: 00:24:19

and that's most important to her, and she loves to travel.

Janice Porter: 00:24:22

And I said, Okay, what do you want to do? What project should

Janice Porter: 00:24:25

we start with? So we did two projects. One was small. One had

Janice Porter: 00:24:28

to do with creating some greeting card messages for

Janice Porter: 00:24:32

special people and how she and so now she can do that on any

Janice Porter: 00:24:36

occasion. And the other one was about creating a trip to Ireland

Janice Porter: 00:24:41

with her girlfriend, and we, we worked on this for with chat GBT

Janice Porter: 00:24:46

for about an hour. And when we were finished, she had this

Janice Porter: 00:24:50

whole itinerary of three weeks in Ireland in different cities,

Janice Porter: 00:24:53

and it asked her questions, and she said, this is like magic.

Janice Porter: 00:24:57

You should sit there, light up. It was just. So exciting to see

Janice Porter: 00:25:01

that now she's telling everyone that she's The Wiz, right, that

Janice Porter: 00:25:04

knows how to do it. And I love that because it gave her some

Janice Porter: 00:25:08

passion and some excitement about something new, exactly.

Janice Porter: 00:25:11

That's the thing that actually keeps me going when I look at

Janice Porter: 00:25:15

what it can do for people. So it's kind of exciting, I think,

Janice Porter: 00:25:20

because there's so much to learn and so much to do. Yeah, it is.

Janice Porter: 00:25:24

It is all right. So just to wrap up, a couple of quick questions

Janice Porter: 00:25:28

for you, so because there's so much out there to do and so much

Janice Porter: 00:25:32

to learn these days, and because the word curiosity is my

Janice Porter: 00:25:36

favorite, so I'm going to ask you my two part question. One,

Janice Porter: 00:25:42

do you think curiosity is innate or learned? And I'd be curious

Janice Porter: 00:25:47

to know your answer based on your expertise as a

Janice Porter: 00:25:49

professional. And secondly, what are you most curious about these

Janice Porter: 00:25:54

days? Because that's what excites me, the new things to

Janice Porter: 00:25:57

learn. So go ahead and let me know. Oh,

Beverley Glazer: 00:25:59

wow. We can go on and on that entire podcast. I

Beverley Glazer: 00:26:04

know is curiosity innate. I think it probably is, you know,

Beverley Glazer: 00:26:08

and as a teacher, you probably see it, you know, we can be shut

Beverley Glazer: 00:26:13

down, though, by older people that are not necessarily wiser,

Beverley Glazer: 00:26:18

but all we have to do is take a look at a child and they're

Beverley Glazer: 00:26:22

curious about absolutely everything. And curiosity, for

Beverley Glazer: 00:26:27

me, it's my secret sauce. I am always curious about everything.

Beverley Glazer: 00:26:36

I love learning, whether it's AI. I was in a webinar yesterday

Beverley Glazer: 00:26:43

that just happened to have hit me, and there's, like, all these

Beverley Glazer: 00:26:47

different, 25 different AI than some of them stemming from a lot

Beverley Glazer: 00:26:53

of them stemming from chat GBT, but it's like, wow. You know how

Beverley Glazer: 00:26:58

quickly the world is. You know, I'm a glutton for learning. I

Beverley Glazer: 00:27:02

don't never stop. So for me, Curiosity is what what he's

Beverley Glazer: 00:27:08

like, people are, what I'm interested in. So it's the

Beverley Glazer: 00:27:12

issues underneath asking the questions is allows me to see

Beverley Glazer: 00:27:18

what blocks people have so that I can help them move forward.

Beverley Glazer: 00:27:22

It's all about literally forming relationships, finding out more,

Beverley Glazer: 00:27:27

being curious. It's, I don't know. The question is, is it

Beverley Glazer: 00:27:32

innate? I think that's what keeps us alive asking questions.

Beverley Glazer: 00:27:37

Yeah, I agree. And the more we learn, it's all through

Beverley Glazer: 00:27:41

questions. So whether you're asking chat GBT or asking

Beverley Glazer: 00:27:45

someone else, just be that child and keep asking. And there's no

Beverley Glazer: 00:27:49

such thing as a stupid question. Yeah,

Janice Porter: 00:27:51

I love that. And having a very curious five and a

Janice Porter: 00:27:54

half year old or almost six year old granddaughter, that just

Janice Porter: 00:27:58

lights me up and and so I see it in her a lot. Oh, yeah. Well,

Janice Porter: 00:28:02

this has been delightful, and I thank you for your time and for

Janice Porter: 00:28:06

your value and what you bring to the world. Just before I close,

Janice Porter: 00:28:13

please tell my audience where they can find you. And I think

Janice Porter: 00:28:16

you have a free resource for

Beverley Glazer: 00:28:20

yes, it's a checklist. It's called stuck to

Beverley Glazer: 00:28:24

unstoppable,

Janice Porter: 00:28:26

to go from stuck to unstoppable, right?

Janice Porter: 00:28:28

Unstoppable? I know I forget the name of mine. Yeah, it's all

Janice Porter: 00:28:34

good.

Beverley Glazer: 00:28:35

It's all the same thing. Actually, I should

Beverley Glazer: 00:28:38

change that.

Janice Porter: 00:28:40

Yeah, from stuck to unstuckable, yeah.

Beverley Glazer: 00:28:45

And really it is. It's strategies to take

Beverley Glazer: 00:28:47

strategic action just to stop sabotaging yourself. And that is

Beverley Glazer: 00:28:52

on your website, right? It's on my website, or it's on the link

Beverley Glazer: 00:28:55

that I gave you, and right, which

Janice Porter: 00:28:57

I'll put on this in the show notes. Get it right

Janice Porter: 00:28:59

in. Sure. Perfect. Thank you so much. Well, Beverly reminds us

Janice Porter: 00:29:04

that it's never too late to rewrite the script, and that the

Janice Porter: 00:29:06

relationships we cultivate, especially the one with

Janice Porter: 00:29:09

ourselves, are key to any transformation, whether you're

Janice Porter: 00:29:12

approaching a new chapter or supporting someone who is

Janice Porter: 00:29:15

Beverly work is a powerful testament to what's possible

Janice Porter: 00:29:18

when strategy meets purpose. So to learn more. Do visit her

Janice Porter: 00:29:23

website, reinvent impossible.com, or tune into her

Janice Porter: 00:29:27

podcast, aging with purpose and passion, you'll see her

Janice Porter: 00:29:30

curiosity there as she asks interesting questions of her

Janice Porter: 00:29:33

guests. And remember, so thanks for joining us first of all, and

Janice Porter: 00:29:38

remember in business and in life, relationships rule and

Janice Porter: 00:29:42

stay it's important to stay connected and be remembered. I.